petition to make leveling optional (ex. auto-50)

[Tsuga]

Well it certainly worked. You got the attention.

Sort of a trollish way to go about it... but if it gets the message across that the PL'ing rate is pretty freaking stupid, then that's what counts.

I doubt even Yoshi expected this... regardless of what he's saying. If he does come out and say "yeah I know and I'm fine with it"...?

Then all I could say is, he's out of touch and apparently not a student of what happens in other MMOs when their population becomes too top-heavy... due to the attrition of age, or out-of-control PL'ing, and it's gonna come back to bite him in the ass.

As for those enthusiastically supporting it as a good thing? Well, I'll try to keep track of those names now, just so I can see how many come back later to complain how they're at level cap, there's not enough content and they're quitting.

And anyway... I know Yoshi made that statement in support of PL'ing in the Q&A...

But didn't he previous state that the felt 3 months is a good amount of time to reach 50?

.... Mixed message much?

And isn't this the same team that nerfed the Leve exploit a few months back?

The bottom line is that PLing is an exploit (granted, it was dev team approved - and we called that this would happen before the patch) that is being taken advantage of. Just like with the GL exploit there are people who are all for it, because they want to take the easy route to 50 (as if there was anything at the end of that tunnel). These people don't care about balance, or the economy of the game. They don't care about whether or not crafters have any reason to make them gear. They just want everything NOW.

I've been playing this game for a year. I played at my own pace (roughly 5-10 hours a week when active). I got my first Level 50 last night in a grind party (not a PL party). I will say that I had a lot of fun on this long road that I chose to take. Leveling from 1-50 is possible without shortcuts, and the focus should be on making that leveling experience a good one, by providing content for everyone along the way (the new Lv15 dungeon is a good step in that direction, but the PLing issue undermines the inclusion of that content at all) - not letting people skip that part of the game all together.

We all tried to argue our way into convincing others that PLing was broken. Obviously that didn't work.

Here's hoping a bit of trolling worked.

I think that the response to this thread proves our point.

[Preypacer]

And isn't this the same team that nerfed the Leve exploit a few months back?

The bottom line is that PLing is an exploit (granted, it was dev team approved - and we called that this would happen before the patch) that is being taken advantage of. Just like with the GL exploit there are people who are all for it, because they want to take the easy route to 50 (as if there was anything at the end of that tunnel). These people don't care about balance, or the economy of the game. They don't care about whether or not crafters have any reason to make them gear. They just want everything NOW.

I've been playing this game for a year. I played at my own pace (roughly 5-10 hours a week when active). I got my first Level 50 last night in a grind party (not a PL party). I will say that I had a lot of fun on this long road that I chose to take. Leveling from 1-50 is possible without shortcuts, and the focus should be on making that leveling experience a good one, by providing content for everyone along the way (the new Lv15 dungeon is a good step in that direction, but the PLing issue undermines the inclusion of that content at all) - not letting people skip that part of the game all together.



I think that the response to this thread proves our point.

Err... I'm not sure what you're getting at in your post? Are you agreeing with me? Disagreeing with me? Expanding on what I said? lol.. I'm a bit confused.

I'm against the PL'ing - especially to this degree - in any MMO, FFXIV or otherwise. I am not a fan of it and hope they do patch it up... sooner than later. I mean, being helped along if you're having a rough time of a couple levels or whatever is one thing.. but PL'ing 1-50 in a day.. or hell.. even a week.. is ridiculous.

That's awesome that you dinged 50 by actually playing. And grats on 50 btw .

[Tsuga]

Err... I'm not sure what you're getting at in your post? Are you agreeing with me? Disagreeing with me? Expanding on what I said? lol.. I'm a bit confused.

I'm against the PL'ing - especially to this degree - in any MMO, FFXIV or otherwise. I am not a fan of it and hope they do patch it up... sooner than later. I mean, being helped along if you're having a rough time of a couple levels or whatever is one thing.. but PL'ing 1-50 in a day.. or hell.. even a week.. is ridiculous.

That's awesome that you dinged 50 by actually playing. And grats on 50 btw .

I was attempting to expand on what you had said, and giving my two cents.

Also, thanks!

So you assert something that you have no way of knowing, nor proving... Yet assume it to be true, and proceed to call people hypocrites anyway...

Weeee quick on jumping the gun there...

I threw out a stupid estimate, but the point still stands. When the OP gets overwhelmingly negative feedback, and the thread that points out that somebody leveled to 50 in one day (and that PLing should be fixed, or removed) gets overwhelmingly negative feedback, I think it's fair to assume that there is some cross over there. Also the only people who would be offended by my previous statement should be the people that it applies to. In which case they're hypocrites. I am just basing this on what I read in both threads. I don't really care if my 70% estimate is really 50%, or 10%.