Fix to TT

[Scalizor]

I got 3 lightning and 2 firion cards from plat packs, maybe you should try the tournament

and yes, I think its fun and it makes the feeling when you finally win a card even better

I got Cecil and Nanamo from about 20 packs, the rest were 4-star cards. RNG, son. You having good luck doesn't mean TT is in a good place right now.

The feeling I get when I'm done farming a NPC card after a brain-melting grind is the joy of NEVER, EVER having to duel that NPC again. Same thing goes for certain trial/dungeon cards, and yes, Terra, I'm looking at you. 400 clears for a single card. I know people who are sitting on 600+ and still didn't get it. But yeah, running a trial 24/7 must be fun.
Getting 1000+ wins out of ~5000 games on a NPC whose rules are Random and Chaos and not getting absolutely anything is fun too. Oh, wait, you get MGP! MGP you spend on gold packs to get absolutely nothing! That's fun too!

[ServerCollaps]

Oh, wait, you get MGP! MGP you spend on gold packs to get absolutely nothing! That's fun too!

then dont buy gold packs if it frustrates you? get cloud, fenrir, or whatever. You can spend about 3m mgp on different stuff without even starting to touch gold packs

[Scalizor]

then dont buy gold packs if it frustrates you? get cloud, fenrir, or whatever. You can spend about 3m mgp on different stuff without even starting to touch gold packs

That's the typical "if you don't like it, don't watch it" fallacy. I want the Zidane card because I want all 100 cards, because I'm a card hunter/collector/whatever, but I don't want to spend all my hard-earned MGP to get absolutely nothing thanks to the heavy influence of RNG. Cloud costs 1m MGP? No problem, even though the grind is painful it's guaranteed that once I save up 1m MGP I'll have it. Zidane and WoL, on the other hand, can take either 2 gold packs or a shitload of MGP to get. That's the problem.

It also seems like you decided to skip the rest of my post. Should I stop doing anything I don't like instead of giving constructive feedback on a broken system to —with some luck— have SE listen to us and make some changes?

[ServerCollaps]

it took me 50 wod runs to get my first onion knight card, which is more time consuming then 400x dragons neck and do you see me cry a river? One time you have luck with something, another time you dont

rng is what motivates people because you can always be the winner

I'm paying for the game to play it and not to be done with the content after 1 week of casual play

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Just because it's the way it is doesn't mean you have to "deal with it". I think we're all entitled to complain every now and then, especially when some NPCs have BS rules during card games.

[Nel_Celestine]

Just because it's the way it is doesn't mean you have to "deal with it". I think we're all entitled to complain every now and then, especially when some NPCs have BS rules during card games.

Exactly. It seems that ServerCollaps is only one at this time on this section that is flat out defending the current system. Please note not a single person on -any- of the topics here as far as I am aware have asked to make Triple Triad something -super- easy to complete. But look at things this way, if we hadn't said something, how many of us would have even had a -CHANCE- at the Tournament prize cards if we had just accepted the system as is?

We are trying to think of ways and offer possible solutions and feedback regarding a system that many of us feel is broken or too heavy handed with the RNG. I'm not saying your feedback is not needed as well, but just going "I got them all in two weeks" means the system is fine while others are -STILL- trying to get cards is like ATMA all over again.

Perhaps that comparison will help explain why we are trying to provide feedback.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Don't forget the Atma haves and have nots where they were in the SAME EXACT ARGUMENT:

"Oh i got mine in a few weeks, it ain't as bad as you claim. RNG is RNG."
"I been trying for months to get my Atmas and it's no longer fun. Pure RNG isn't good."

[Scalizor]

rng is what motivates people because you can always be the winner

Quote of the month. Why'd anyone feel motivated by RNG? Okay, there's RNG on Indolent Imperial and getting the Gaius card takes time, but he's easy to play against. It's not fun but at least you're just farming with a 100% (or close to) win rate. In the end it's all about what Nel said on the first page:

Higher Difficulty should equal higher drop rates.
Lower difficulty should be lower drop rates.

Rather simple when you consider it that way.

High Difficulty with Low Drop rates = Frustation

That's why Onion Knight has a higher drop rate than Terra/Bartz; it's not difficult but the runs take way more time.

[ServerCollaps]

Quote of the month. Why'd anyone feel motivated by RNG?

thats how casinos work

[Scalizor]

thats how casinos work

So you're okay with this game being a casino. Sorry, but you're alone on that.