Fix to TT

[ServerCollaps]

it took me 50 wod runs to get my first onion knight card, which is more time consuming then 400x dragons neck and do you see me cry a river? One time you have luck with something, another time you dont

rng is what motivates people because you can always be the winner

I'm paying for the game to play it and not to be done with the content after 1 week of casual play

[Scalizor]

rng is what motivates people because you can always be the winner

Quote of the month. Why'd anyone feel motivated by RNG? Okay, there's RNG on Indolent Imperial and getting the Gaius card takes time, but he's easy to play against. It's not fun but at least you're just farming with a 100% (or close to) win rate. In the end it's all about what Nel said on the first page:

Higher Difficulty should equal higher drop rates.
Lower difficulty should be lower drop rates.

Rather simple when you consider it that way.

High Difficulty with Low Drop rates = Frustation

That's why Onion Knight has a higher drop rate than Terra/Bartz; it's not difficult but the runs take way more time.

[ServerCollaps]

Quote of the month. Why'd anyone feel motivated by RNG?

thats how casinos work

[Scalizor]

thats how casinos work

So you're okay with this game being a casino. Sorry, but you're alone on that.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Just because it's the way it is doesn't mean you have to "deal with it". I think we're all entitled to complain every now and then, especially when some NPCs have BS rules during card games.

[Nel_Celestine]

Just because it's the way it is doesn't mean you have to "deal with it". I think we're all entitled to complain every now and then, especially when some NPCs have BS rules during card games.

Exactly. It seems that ServerCollaps is only one at this time on this section that is flat out defending the current system. Please note not a single person on -any- of the topics here as far as I am aware have asked to make Triple Triad something -super- easy to complete. But look at things this way, if we hadn't said something, how many of us would have even had a -CHANCE- at the Tournament prize cards if we had just accepted the system as is?

We are trying to think of ways and offer possible solutions and feedback regarding a system that many of us feel is broken or too heavy handed with the RNG. I'm not saying your feedback is not needed as well, but just going "I got them all in two weeks" means the system is fine while others are -STILL- trying to get cards is like ATMA all over again.

Perhaps that comparison will help explain why we are trying to provide feedback.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Don't forget the Atma haves and have nots where they were in the SAME EXACT ARGUMENT:

"Oh i got mine in a few weeks, it ain't as bad as you claim. RNG is RNG."
"I been trying for months to get my Atmas and it's no longer fun. Pure RNG isn't good."

[Dotsusama]

For this reason, I like the Triple Triad game they have in the FF Portal app. If I win a match, I can choose which of the opponent's cards to add to my collection. Mind you, they have nearly 400 cards and the NPC has to USE the card in order for it to be available upon victory. This also means they have many decks per NPC and they do have some decks they use rarely. So you have to play them over and over again to get them to use the card, then actually win that match, to get what you want. If there are 4-5 cards in that same rare deck, it's going to take a while.

Mind you that you're also limited to 5 matches in a row that refresh at a rate of 30 minutes per match unless you buy more, so that's what keeps me from farming all cards in a couple of days. Perhaps some balance of this could be worked in. The timers on NPCs does this, to an extent, but mostly it's just frustrating because if you can only play a short time each day, and that NPC window is closed, you're beyond out of luck.

[Scalizor]

For this reason, I like the Triple Triad game they have in the FF Portal app. If I win a match, I can choose which of the opponent's cards to add to my collection. Mind you, they have nearly 400 cards and the NPC has to USE the card in order for it to be available upon victory. This also means they have many decks per NPC and they do have some decks they use rarely. So you have to play them over and over again to get them to use the card, then actually win that match, to get what you want. If there are 4-5 cards in that same rare deck, it's going to take a while.

Yeah, that's how it used to be in FFVIII. Good ol' times.

[Maikeru]

A lot of hard work here. I've got 98/100 cards. Cloud will be a pure grind. Tidus I can win a tourney or be extremely lucky with RNG. Almost there. I hope they don't include more cards from boosters. God, it's awful. Just... let me kill the same NPC over and over... but no... more... booster packs...