Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
I mean you don't always need to use tomahawk/shieldlob/Idontknowwhatthenameiseither. If the mobs are lined up correctly, you can open with Overpower/Flash. In the case of Overpower, it's 10 more TP for more initial threat. Try it sometime if you get one of those RegenBeforePullRegardlessOfwhatYouSay healers. They still gonna fly past, but the server will catch up in a second. And it's not face pulling. That's if they aggro before you even do anything.

OK better suggestion. Tomahawk > Flash(if you have it slotted) when they are in range.
Considering that the range of Flash/Overpower is such that the enemies WOULD see you before you're close enough to use those skills -- unless said enemies have their backs to you -- I'd count it as facepulling ^^;
And yes, Flash/Overpower is the second skill to go through once they are in range. And it works great as long as you stand directly between the mobs and said regen-happy healer. But often, that's not the case, either because the mobs are to the side of the main group or because the healer positions him/herself to the side to have a better overlook of the fight... and the mobs veer to the side before they're close enough for Flash/Overpower and refuse to get hit.

Though... If I'm to be entirely honest with you... If I have a regen-happy healer on a run, who keeps re-casting it after I've clicked it away or asked them to stop casting it before a pull... I'll probably let them have the aggro from those mobs anyway. If common sense and friendly-but-growning-exasperated-and-annoyed words have no effect, maybe violence will ^_~