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  1. #41
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    Daiza Auvec
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    The point of the glamour prisms at all is to make a non-renewable regent that players will constantly want to have. By dividing them up via jobs, they ensure that each crafter is needed for a specific item which in turn increases the prisms value. I do agree that having the grades appear pointless though, but I understand why they exist which is again, to ensure that each prism has value. A rare Grade 3 prism (or something) is worth more than a Grade 1 or Grade 5 prism, which is sold at a dime a dozen.

    Honestly in my opinion, the glamour prisms are the best items in this game for that reason. (Relatively inexpensive to make, can be sold at a profit and do not break the bank to obtain. Non-renewable so one always has to buy a new one, ect)
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  2. #42
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    Moonfrost Hailstorm
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    I agree with the 1 glamour prism per craft type, it would make things simpler. I do not believe the prices would go down. I believe they would find a midpoint and pretty much stay there.
    some of you argue it would change the value. I disagree the value would remain likely at a midpoint but it would remain.

    I also agree with losing the glamour dispellers, these do not benefit crafters at all.

    Ofcourse while I know it wouldn't benefit crafters I wish the devs would adopt the style lock system of FFXI. It is vastly superior to the glamour system in FFXIV but alas they won't do that because of the gil to be made by the crafters with glamour.
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    Last edited by Wildsprite; 09-24-2015 at 12:02 AM.

  3. #43
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    Chukkaque Thestrong
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    Or at least type. Like if they want to keep grades, which are not needed all ready, fine. But at least get rid of the types.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chukkaque View Post
    Or at least type. Like if they want to keep grades, which are not needed all ready, fine. But at least get rid of the types.
    The types are (one) of the best things about the prisms. Again its to keep the whole value thing associated with them.
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  5. #45
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    C'alih Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990 View Post
    HW dungeons drop Prisms like water.
    Mm-hm. HW dungeons drop empty prisms like water. Doesn't benefit anyone who doesn't have a crafter at 50+. Only means that the empty prisms are super cheap for crafters in case they need to restock on them. But even so, that's five slots taken up. If you can't craft all the prisms yourself, you'll need to either buy one off the MB when you need it (and hope they haven't gone up in price recently), or stock up a lot of different types when you find them cheap. If you're "unlucky" and happen to enjoy glamours of very different ilevels and types, you could end up having to keep 20-ish slots occupied by various prisms, and that's only covering a little more than half of them.

    Keeping in mind the various types you need to buy/make isn't always easy, not if you're planning an entirely new glamour outfit. It doesn't help that the various grades take the exact same materials to make. I can remove materials to make a grade 2 LTW prism and a grade 3 WVR prism. It's happened more than once that I accidentally make a grade 3 LTW prism instead. (Of course, if they changed it so grade 1 takes 1 mat, grade 2 takes 2 mats and so on, people would be outraged that glamouring end-game gear was too expensive...)

    If they required different types of dark matter in order to repair gear (say, "Grade 3 Dark Matter (Clothcraft)"), and you had to craft those Dark Matters from the base, "empty" Dark Matters... would that system make you happy? Or would it be perceived as unneccessarily complicated? Yes, I know you generally repair gear more often than you glamour it.
    What if materia melding required different types of Carbonized Matter depending on materia colour?

    At the very least, they could have gone a similar way to what they did with Dark Matter and Carbonized matter. So that (with the current ilvls) grade one works for ilvl 1-40, grade two works for ilvl 80 or below, grade three works for ilvl 120 or below, and so on.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxifer View Post
    At the very least, they could have gone a similar way to what they did with Dark Matter and Carbonized matter. So that (with the current ilvls) grade one works for ilvl 1-40, grade two works for ilvl 80 or below, grade three works for ilvl 120 or below, and so on.
    if this happened I suddenly see grade five prisms becoming really popular
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Gang View Post
    They all use the exact same recipe. All the prisms grades have the same price. There is literally no difference between the grades other than making glamour more of a chore to use.

    Why have this unnecessary complication? remove the grades and use on general prism per craft.

    It seems like it was designed to just eat up inventory space.

    As an omnicrafter, glamour prisms aren't exactly lucrative. I'd much prefer convenience in using them over whatever potential profits they could provide.
    Just scrap the whole system, and have just one generic prism. It really is a hassle to try and glamour anything.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    how else are they going to get us to buy more retainers?
    My thought exactly.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
    Just scrap the whole system, and have just one generic prism. It really is a hassle to try and glamour anything.
    If you think this simple system is a hassle I kinda wonder how you manage to do anything in this game.
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    Anarista Tarnyang
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    You guys are not seeing the big picture. By having one Prism type, you're opening the doors to inflation. People with 50 crafts would jack up the price for it. So your 5k Prism will now be 25k or maybe more. If you're ok with that, then cool. Implement it and I'll charge an arm and a leg for it. I know others will do the same. When you blow like mils cuz you guys wanted a single prism, please do not complain about it.
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