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    As long as we get Viera as a race.

    Also, I think all damage spells the Green Mage has should be based off Wisdom rather then Intelligence or strength.

    Also, I think Judgement should be a lower damage but full AOE attack that also heals party members for a lil.

    Thaumaturge and Pugilist might be more unique sub-classes for this class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    As long as we get Viera as a race.
    I agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Also, I think all damage spells the Green Mage has should be based off Wisdom rather then Intelligence or strength.
    Do you mean Mind?
    I had thought about making it Mind at first, so then I didn't need CNJ's Cleric Stance but then I was worried that it wouldn't be very balanced compared to the other healers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Also, I think Judgement should be a lower damage but full AOE attack that also heals party members for a lil.
    I would be worried about over healing while trying to do damage and generating too much aggro from said heals. >A>()

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Thaumaturgey and Pugilist might be more unique sub-classes for this class.
    I figured that CNJ would potentially give Cleric Stance, Protect, Stone Skin, and Aero, while ACN would give Virus, Eye for an Eye, and Ruin.
    I tried designed the spell cast times so that they wouldn't need THM's Swiftcast as badly.
    PUG's Mantra and Internal Release do bring something interesting to the table but I thought the utility CNJ and ACN's Protect, Stone Skin, Virus, and Eye for an Eye brought more utility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    I agree.


    Do you mean Mind?
    I had thought about making it Mind at first, so then I didn't need CNJ's Cleric Stance but then I was worried that it wouldn't be very balanced compared to the other healers.


    I would be worried about over healing while trying to do damage and generating too much aggro from said heals. >A>()


    I figured that CNJ would potentially give Cleric Stance, Protect, Stone Skin, and Aero, while ACN would give Virus, Eye for an Eye, and Ruin.
    I tried designed the spell cast times so that they wouldn't need THM's Swiftcast as badly.
    PUG's Mantra and Internal Release do bring something interesting to the table but I thought the utility CNJ and ACN's Protect, Stone Skin, Virus, and Eye for an Eye brought more utility.
    Yes I meant Mind.

    Other classes in the group can bring protect though. Some of them have it for soloing and you need no longer require it. The problem with new classes I think is they are: "Too much of the same."

    Honestly, I would rather have something different. Swiftcast is also too valuable to miss up for instant rezzes.

    Also though, I would put them in medium armor rather then cloth armor.

    I would also have it more focused. The healing spell that is instant cast for example. That is cool and all, but nobody will use it.

    2.0 second cast 400 potency heal will always be used.
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    We should get jobs that have a longer tradition in Final Fantasy games first before we get something as obscure as a "Green Mage" in my opinion.

    I want to see red mage and blue mage before we even hear of this to be honest..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Other classes in the group can bring protect though. Some of them have it for soloing and you need no longer require it. The problem with new classes I think is they are: "Too much of the same."
    Honestly, I would rather have something different. Swiftcast is also too valuable to miss up for instant rezzes.
    I had originally thought about making the cross classes ACN and THM but from personal experience, I've seen people leave parties because the healer didn't have Protect. >A>()
    I also thought that the Job lacked some needed damage mitigation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Also though, I would put them in medium armor rather then cloth armor.
    The problem with Medium armor is that it doesn't give any stats a healer would need like Mind or Piety and randomly slapping them on would make it weird for the classes/jobs that originally wore them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I would also have it more focused. The healing spell that is instant cast for example. That is cool and all, but nobody will use it.

    2.0 second cast 400 potency heal will always be used.
    The Instant heal spell, Ameliorate, was designed to both act similar to a SCH's fairy and AST's Aspected Benefic as off cooldown, instant cast, healing spells and also compensate for not having a 600 potency heal. If you need the higher healing spell, you would use Convalesce then Ameliorate. I also gave it a proc, like Freecure and Enhanced Benefic, that gave a 15% chance of doubling Ameliorate's potency after using Convalesce.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xanikk999 View Post
    We should get jobs that have a longer tradition in Final Fantasy games first before we get something as obscure as a "Green Mage" in my opinion.
    While I like the traditional FF jobs as much as the next person, I think we should also give some of the lesser known or used jobs some limelight as well. It helps bring a different spin on things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanikk999 View Post
    We should get jobs that have a longer tradition in Final Fantasy games first before we get something as obscure as a "Green Mage" in my opinion.

    I want to see red mage and blue mage before we even hear of this to be honest..
    I'm the opposite here. I think FFXIV should aim for creating unique jobs. Yes the traditional job is nice here and there, but they should be balanced with brand spanking new concepts. FFXIV can be as much of a trendsetter as any other game.

    "Hey, the new FFXXI is coming out. I hear you can play as a <thing>. I'm so excited! <thing> was one of the best classes to come out of XIV. Its XVII counterpart was lackluster, but if it plays like it did in XIV and XX, it will be amazing."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    I had thought about making it Mind at first, so then I didn't need CNJ's Cleric Stance but then I was worried that it wouldn't be very balanced compared to the other healers.
    In my humble opinion, Mind should have been the de-facto choice for White Mage's attack spells. Mind you, I would have also advocated removing things like Aero and Stone and replacing them with spells like Banish and Dia like we had in 1.0. At least the element choice would make more sense for a white mage.
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