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    Please buff the pvp ranged LB.

    the ranged LB in pvp is such garbage. It has so many issues that make ranged damage dealers not even consider using it. A lot of this applies to PvE as well but that's not my focus right now.

    First issue: aiming. Having to have a target makes it really hard to aim the LB where you want it to go, as your initial target may move and you have to adjust to get maximum effectiveness out of the LB which can be very difficult with a constantly moving target. It's even worse for a controller user as targeting is terrible and usually ends up targeting something behind you rather than what you're looking at. It would be much better if the LB had a small target circle (like the one for placing a pet) and the LB will fire in a line from you in the direction that you placed the circle.

    Second issue: speed. The LB goes off sooo slowly, for Mage it's fine for it to be slow because the large radius makes it difficult to get out of. But the time it takes for the ranged LB to go off with their thin line AoE, you can basically side step it and do a dance before it goes off. I wouldn't say it needs to be instant, but it definitely needs to be faster than it is.

    Third issue: damage. Combined with the above two issues the damage if you actually hit something is appalling, Mage LB is about 50% hp in one hit. With ranged LB you'd probably have done more damage just using your AoE skills in the time it takes to use the LB, it just does nothing.

    Fourth issue: basically a culmination of all of the above but, animation lock, you get locked in place for so long, everything you target sees that LB line and goes "oh a MCH/BRD is LBing, thank you for the convenient trail that leads me back to you where you're stuck in place and defenceless, let me just sidestep out of it and come murder you with my 10 other friends you tried to target, good thing you're right next to us so you'd actually be able to hit something with it even though you're a ranged damage dealer!". I can't really think of a way to deal with this other than fix all the other issues so this won't be a problem since all LB's have animation lock, but they can actually do something with theirs that makes it worth getting locked in place for.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 09-21-2015 at 12:01 PM.
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    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

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    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

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    Stop relying on LB and git gud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhuni View Post
    Stop relying on LB and git gud.
    Can someone Al Bundy him out the door please.
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    Get out of here.
    Make me Forum Police.
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    I like that title.
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    Is it reset Tuesday yet.

    I question whether I'm playing a PvE game with PvP mixed in, or I am I playing a PfG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhuni View Post
    Stop relying on LB and git gud.
    I know this is a troll, but I don't rely on the LB, I CAN'T rely on the LB, cause the LB is garbage, that's the point. It needs to be buffed to be a reliable way to kill things or at least deal decent damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    The anonymity of the internet is what leads people to become jerks online.

    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

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    Player Bhuni's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    I know this is a troll, but I don't rely on the LB, I CAN'T rely on the LB, cause the LB is garbage, that's the point. It needs to be buffed to be a reliable way to kill things or at least deal decent damage.
    LB is a push for free kill button used properly, it is far from garbage and you want it buffed?
    So who's really trolling here.
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    More like nerf the melee LB please. And fix Cometeor so that I don't get hit by it even when I'm out of it. And make the healer LB affect all players on the entire map pls yoshi-p. And give my WAR the DPS LB instead of the tank one so I can one-shot people.

    But really, drop it in a chokepoint and people have nowhere to run. I do agree perhaps the area of effect could be a bit wider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhuni View Post
    LB is a push for free kill button used properly, it is far from garbage and you want it buffed?
    So who's really trolling here.
    Free kill... For anyone who sees the BRD/MCH using it.

    And since you didn't seem to read the OP yes I want it buffed >_> it's in no way a "free kill" it locks you in place for a signposted and easily avoided attack that even if it does hit something only does like 20%hp in damage. and unlike mages we don't have an AoE sleep/bind to make everyone hold still while we use it.

    Ranged LB is the weakest, easiest to avoid and hardest to use. It has no advantages over the other LB's so yes it deserves a buff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adn View Post
    But really, drop it in a chokepoint and people have nowhere to run. I do agree perhaps the area of effect could be a bit wider.
    Well this goes back to problem 1, yes this is pretty much the only way to use it, but you can't just drop it on a choke point you need to pick an ideal target in that chokepoint to get it central or you'll miss everything by aiming off to the side somewhere, which is why it really needs to be manually aimed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    The anonymity of the internet is what leads people to become jerks online.

    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

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