"Newbie" question

[Caimie_Tsukino]

I'm noticing now that my CRP is 51 and my ALC is 50-- is one level really what's breaking the calculations behind the scenes in order to make this go so smoothly on CRP, but make me work so freakin' hard on ALC?

You said "finally gotten some crafters to 50" on your first post, so I thought you had CRP at 50.

Silverbane's right. Your CRP is level 51. You probably underestimated how much that means. Every level beyond level 50 is a gigantic step for ARR 1 star to 4 star recipes. Level 53 Heavensward recipe is the same difficulty as ARR 4 star recipe. By the time you reach level 53/54, you can easily 4 shot a 4 Star recipe with CS II.

Silverbane's solution is the best. 1 or 2 GC turn-in (especially with gold star) will let you easily reach 51 on ALC. Then problem resolved.

That's it exactly.

In post-Heavensward Eorzea, recipe difficulty is ordered like this:
L50 --- your ALC
L50 1-Star
L50 2-Star
L50 3-Star
L50 4-Star
L51 --- Your CRP

Actually, as I said above, level 53 = 4 star. So L51 is actually below 4 star.

[TechnoTechie]

Actually, as I said above, level 53 = 4 star. So L51 is actually below 4 star.

An important thing to note is that 1 level in Heavensward is effectively 10-15 levels in A Realm Reborn (or at least that's how big of a wall it feels like, especially when you're trying to do a level 51 craft at 50, but it's as hard or harder than a level 50 3-star craft); this makes every level above 50 that much more important to attain in reducing the difficulty of previous crafts.

[Caimie_Tsukino]

An important thing to note is that 1 level in Heavensward is effectively 10-15 levels in A Realm Reborn (or at least that's how big of a wall it feels like, especially when you're trying to do a level 51 craft at 50, but it's as hard or harder than a level 50 3-star craft); this makes every level above 50 that much more important to attain in reducing the difficulty of previous crafts.

Yea, every time when you try to do a recipe above your own level, the progress penalty is quite a lot.

I just confirmed that ARR 3 star recipe is actually BETWEEN LVL 51 and LVL 52 Recipes:
Lvl 51 recipe - 421 difficulty (or 339 difficulty for some)
3 star recipe - 445 difficulty
Lvl 52 recipe - 503 difficulty

So this means, if some new crafters (without ARR BiS gear) wanna do ARR 3 star items, it's better to wait till level 52 or above. Safest at level 53.

[TechnoTechie]

Yea, every time when you try to do a recipe above your own level, the progress penalty is quite a lot.

I just confirmed that ARR 3 star recipe is actually BETWEEN LVL 51 and LVL 52 Recipes:
Lvl 51 recipe - 421 difficulty (or 339 difficulty for some)
3 star recipe - 445 difficulty
Lvl 52 recipe - 503 difficulty

So this means, if some new crafters (without ARR BiS gear) wanna do ARR 3 star items, it's better to wait till level 52 or above. Safest at level 53.

I know the "difficulty" aka progress required is a bit higher, but what about the quality/progress modifier when actually crafting? I was only doing this by feel when I was level 50, but it felt harder to do a level 51 item than a 3-star item because of the penalties imposed on you. Does the "difficulty" actually have any bearing on that? Would be interesting to see a "difficulty nullified per level" chart if that was the case

[Silverbane]

Actually, as I said above, level 53 = 4 star. So L51 is actually below 4 star.

Thanks, I did not know that. I've edited my post to make it less wrong.