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    Rin_Kuroi's Avatar
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    Reiku Lumenaris
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    Healing help with a sch as a whm in a1s.

    Hi everyone,

    My static has been struggling on a1s for weeks now. The biggest problem we’ve had is our war off tank dying. Often he won’t be healed enough for the tank buster or he’ll be low going into prey and die then. Getting to enrage has been very inconsistent because of this. We got ourselves a new sch and are still having the same problem (even though to a lesser degree).

    The problem could be our war tank. Maybe he isn’t using the right cooldowns, however, he doesn’t seem particularly squishy when I’ve healed him.

    The problem could be me. Maybe I need to heal the other tank more. I solo heal the entire first phase. The sch takes over healing the off tank right when the 3000 ton missile (ie blue laser beams) is cast. He keeps healing until I medica 2 the last gunnery pod in that phase. I really have no problem keeping my tank up. I do a lot of healing and moving when baiting the resin and photon phaser. I really just don’t have the time to toss the off tank a heal and its takes about every gcd I have to keep my stuff together.

    So my question is: How much do other whm help heal the off tank during phase 2?
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    Nazreen Eby
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    Scholar Lv 70
    We got to this issue ourselves with also a sch/whm setup, War/Drk tanks (second week progression). We go Holmgang first n 3rd and Living Dead on 2nd, So I as sch migitate the drk on first n 3rd with adlo ss and virus and the war on second. The whm fires Tetras to heal each the other tank up. Theoretically will work, we got to 28% yesterday.
    CDs are Dark Mind+Shadow Wall/Vengeance+Inner Beast for the migitated busters I think.

    Hope this helped.
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    Last edited by Werhusky; 09-23-2015 at 05:28 PM.
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    Reiku Lumenaris
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    What do you mean the whm fires triangulates to heal?

    We run pld and war. The pld is 100% solid. Rampart/Sentinel first and third. Hallowed the second. Works like a charm and I get to help the sch with the second. The war hasn't had a problem with his mitigation cooldowns for the buster. The main problem has been not getting healed up before it hits. Is there anything the war should be doing before/during prey while the healers are distracted? It could the war is just taking too much damage for the sch to catch up. I also suspect the sch isn't moving and healing during resin and photon enough.
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    Last edited by Rin_Kuroi; 09-22-2015 at 11:18 PM.

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    Totomi Blomi
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    In my current group, we have WHM (me) SCH, DRK, WAR. I heal the DRK while the SCH heals the WAR. I solo heal the entire first 40% while the SCH stays in cleric stance with Selene. After the split, I keep regen up on both tanks, but other than that, I almost never have to heal the WAR. My co-healer takes care of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi View Post
    What do you mean the whm fires triangulates to heal?
    With only Holmgang/Living Dead and no further Migitation the tanks will drop to 1 HP n that instacast is the easiest way to top them up again to not die to next Autoattack. Thats the first few seconds after the busters, we keep topping the rest with regen, m2, cures. But consider this was only our 3rd raid in total and we only seen three times the second jump due to derp, lag and other fails

    And get your war to use Equilibrium for the Holmganged hit. It really helps.
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    Last edited by Werhusky; 09-22-2015 at 10:54 PM.
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    Do you have footage anywhere for us to analyse?
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    None. After 0.5 spawns you should never have to touch the OT. I mean, you could bene him to help out for one buster once youve stabilized your side, but it sounds like your SCH needs to step up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninimo_Babamo View Post
    In my current group, we have WHM (me) SCH, DRK, WAR. I heal the DRK while the SCH heals the WAR. I solo heal the entire first 40% while the SCH stays in cleric stance with Selene. After the split, I keep regen up on both tanks, but other than that, I almost never have to heal the WAR. My co-healer takes care of that.
    Thanks for the info. I actually have ACT track my regens on both tanks. It's pretty nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    Do you have footage anywhere for us to analyse?
    Sadly, I do not. I may try and get some next week if the problem persists.
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    White Magic
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    Our group has the same setup as yours with the WHM (me) > PLD and the SCH > WAR.
    Like Ninimo, I hardly have to worry about the WAR for the tank busters.

    Sounds like the SCH may be worried about the prey targets and couldn't top off the WAR in time. If it helps, the group doesn't need to be completely topped up after gunnery pod - the two prey targets only need to be healed enough so they won't die to the last missile. They can focus on their tank after 2-3 heals on their assigned prey target.
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