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    Kaidam's Avatar
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    Actually if OP don't mind, have some further questions too.

    1. Do I always pair berserk with Deliverance stance?

    2. Also, is it compulsory to pair up deliverance with defensive cooldowns?

    3. Also,for the defensive cooldowns, are weaker cooldowns like Foresight good enough on its own to pair up with deliverance. Or must be a minimum of Vengeance or Raw Intuition.

    Reason why I am asking is because I always feel like I am in a dilemma on whether to pop the berserk as soon as the CD is up or wait till the defensive cooldowns are up.

    4. Also is using the triple fell cleave opening really the most optimal? Cause I feel like I have to waste the RI & Vengeance CD when I could have use it more like an oh shit button later on.

    5. Is triple fell cleave rotations used only during the opening? Or is it more optimal to line up all the cooldowns giving abandon/wrath stacks so that you can do the triple fell cleave combo again.

    6. Should I start the rotation for triple FC in Deliverance or stance switch from Defiance only when I hit 5 stacks?

    Sorry for so many questions. I just switched over from PLD to WAR and need some advice.
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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaidam View Post
    1. Do I always pair berserk with Deliverance stance?
    If you're pulling, it's ideal to pair Berserk with Unchained to get as much snap aggro as possible to allow you to focus on alternating Eye -> Path in Deliverance. Past that, Berserk should always be used in Deliverance.
    2. Also, is it compulsory to pair up deliverance with defensive cooldowns?
    Yes. If you're just getting hit by autos it isn't as necessary but it still smooths out the damage curve. Cooldowns like Awareness are especially good in Deliverance as crits are actually life threatening.
    3. Also,for the defensive cooldowns, are weaker cooldowns like Foresight good enough on its own to pair up with deliverance. Or must be a minimum of Vengeance or Raw Intuition.
    As long as it's just autos, Foresight is fine. Generally you want either Foresight (+ Awareness), RI (+ Awareness), Vengeance, or Thrill + Conv up as long as a tank buster doesn't require the one you're popping and it'll be back up whenever you need it. As an example, in A1S you'd want to have all your CDs rolling before Plasma if you're planning to Holmgang it, as they need to be back up for the 2nd Plasma since Holmgang will no longer be available until the 3rd.
    4. Also is using the triple fell cleave opening really the most optimal? Cause I feel like I have to waste the RI & Vengeance CD when I could have use it more like an oh shit button later on.
    Like all openers, it depends on the fight. 3x FC is optimal as long as you'll have RI and Vengeance back up when you need them - examples being A1S and A3S. RI & Vengeance aren't "oh shit" buttons, you should always plan your cooldowns out before you've even pulled the boss (unless you're seeing everything for the first time).
    5. Is triple fell cleave rotations used only during the opening? Or is it more optimal to line up all the cooldowns giving abandon/wrath stacks so that you can do the triple fell cleave combo again.
    Depends where you are in your combo, how much Abandon you have, how far away each CD is, etc. etc. Triple FC is the most bursty use of Berserk, but it's not always the most optimal. Play by ear.
    6. Should I start the rotation for triple FC in Deliverance or stance switch from Defiance only when I hit 5 stacks?
    If you're MTing you can only get the 3x FC opener if you're willing to waste RI or Vengeance before the pull... and that's usually not too smart. You also don't get to use Berserk with Unchained, which means you'll generate less aggro.

    If you're OTing, you start in Deliverance and stay in Deliverance until you're tanking something.
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    Thanks for the quick reply. That really clear things up.
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