Lets nerf WAR :D

[MeeYow]

Nothing is wrong with Rampart it is a good CD, also IB is a nice concept, but people often use the stock response of it being part of a larger kit to justify how good it is. The problem is when someone like you goes through the entire kit and notices for every PLD cooldown WAR has an equivalent or better one, that falls apart.

Stance dancing is the right way to consider everything, i was only making a few extra notes so I just put in one sentence about fell cleaves in my last post. The main problem I have is people seem to try to argue the IB FC trade off as a weakness, but it is a strength, it pulls more damage when a cooldown is not necessary, and when a CD is necessary IB is just as strong as it always was. Imagine if PLD could turn shelltron or bulwark into more DPS in A1S, we wouldn't be complaining!

Edit: Also recast timers are massively undervalued. AS1 week 1 being the classic example where PLD, the supposed defence specialist, was the only tank garunteed to run out of cooldowns by tank buster 4. It is also the only one that finds itself needing to weave its invuln skill into its normal CD rotation in order to not run out.

[Abbul_Stonecleaver]

Edit: Also recast timers are massively undervalued. AS1 week 1 being the classic example where PLD, the supposed defence specialist, was the only tank garunteed to run out of cooldowns by tank buster 4. It is also the only one that finds itself needing to weave its invuln skill into its normal CD rotation in order to not run out.

Iirc enrage happens before fourth buster. I remember only needing to plan for 3.


Nowadays with only 2 busters for most groups, Pal HG means even more. Pal can go Sword Oath entire time easier than War full Deliverance. I'm having to swap into Defiance for 10ish seconds for second buster, while a Pal never would have to go into Shield Oath after opener.