Lets nerf WAR :D

[Ragnvard]

@Syzygian
Exactly: my point was that why are people saying how warrior is OPed with storm's path when DRK can potentially have both -int and -dmg up at the same time? (esp one that knows how to save Reprisal procs for the busts - but that is also the pt, what if RNG hates you and you just don't parry before a bust?).

Much of my argument is about "each tank have something really strong about them in their specialty". Warrior does not need a nerf, at least not without readjusting the other tank's strengths in their respective domain.

On innerbeast:
Yes, it is strong. Warriors have always had it. It consumes our Wrath stacks (lose parry chance), and as silly as it sound, it compete with Fell Cleave (and also unchained) which is arguably the premise of why people are complaining about warriors: warriors doing a lot of damage while tanking in deliverance. Sure, we can go into defiance before a bust and hit IB, but dps loss is dps loss - note all other classes can still use their full arsenal of cooldowns not being in tank stance.

As pointed out earlier, plds have a stronger set of active cooldown and the passive RNG protect of their shield. Also due to healing skills not being affected by the defiance healing buff, the passive damage reduction of a pld is also a better one.

[Disc]

Much of my argument is about "each tank have something really strong about them in their specialty". Warrior does not need a nerf, at least not without readjusting the other tank's strengths in their respective domain.

If that has been your point I'm very confused as to why you're arguing that DRK is somehow weak & that PLD should not be buffed because they can blow their TP stunning for a party that will never pass enrage timers.

[Syzygian]

@Syzygian
Exactly: my point was that why are people saying how warrior is OPed with storm's path when DRK can potentially have both -int and -dmg up at the same time? (esp one that knows how to save Reprisal procs for the busts - but that is also the pt, what if RNG hates you and you just don't parry before a bust?).

Much of my argument is about "each tank have something really strong about them in their specialty". Warrior does not need a nerf, at least not without readjusting the other tank's strengths in their respective domain.

On innerbeast:
Yes, it is strong. Warriors have always had it. It consumes our Wrath stacks (lose parry chance), and as silly as it sound, it compete with Fell Cleave (and also unchained) which is arguably the premise of why people are complaining about warriors: warriors doing a lot of damage while tanking in deliverance. Sure, we can go into defiance before a bust and hit IB, but dps loss is dps loss - note all other classes can still use their full arsenal of cooldowns not being in tank stance.

As pointed out earlier, plds have a stronger set of active cooldown and the passive RNG protect of their shield. Also due to healing skills not being affected by the defiance healing buff, the passive damage reduction of a pld is also a better one.

As Disc pointed out your wording is dubious at best and sounds like you're saying something completely different. This comes off as backpedaling.

Also tank mitigation and utility is for the most part, equal, and I never implied otherwise in this thread. PLD's utility is made useless by the content, and the real discrepancies are in DPS.