Lets nerf WAR :D

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To be fair, this is not a problem exclusive to DRKs and PLDs. MCHs/BRDs, BLMs/SMNs are kind of in a similar boat.

Basically. But you know, it's different for paladin because of reasons. Obviously paladins should be buffed so they can once again claim a monopoly on that delicious dedicated main tank spot.

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Basically. But you know, it's different for paladin because of reasons. Obviously paladins should be buffed so they can once again claim a monopoly on that delicious dedicated main tank spot.

Kindly enlighten us, since you agreed with him, on how the MCH/BRD or BLM/SMN situation is similar to the situation DRK/PLD is in against WARs.

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Kindly enlighten us, since you agreed with him, on how the MCH/BRD or BLM/SMN situation is similar to the situation DRK/PLD is in against WARs.

DRK/PLD compete for the MT slot, not OT. MCH/BRD compete for the ranged support slot, not melee/caster. BLM/SMN compete for the caster spot, not melee or ranged support. Doubling up on casters or ranged support reduces the effectiveness of the overall party composition due to either loss of maximum damage or loss of support abilities, but like PLD/DRK, is still workable in most situations.

I honestly prefer it like this. Leaves room for a new fourth tank to compete with WAR for OT slot & allows all tanks to specialize more in a specific role.

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DRK/PLD compete for the MT slot, not OT. MCH/BRD compete for the ranged support slot, not melee/caster. BLM/SMN compete for the caster spot, not melee or ranged support. Doubling up on casters or ranged support reduces the effectiveness of the overall party composition due to either loss of maximum damage or loss of support abilities, but like PLD/DRK, is still workable in most situations.

I honestly prefer it like this. Leaves room for a new fourth tank to compete with WAR for OT slot & allows all tanks to specialize more in a specific role.

But at it's current state, there is no defined comp where it is always BRD>MCH or MCH>BRD for ranged support neither is there always a SMN>BLM or BLM>SMN.

Saying it's in the same state as PLD/DRK compared to WAR would mean that it is ALWAYS better to bring MCH>BRD or vice versa and SMN>BLM or vice versa which is absolutely not the case.

Also with regards to the 4th tank competing for OT slot, or even the theory of having an OT specializing tank, would mean their defenses while being a MT would need to be tuned lower equivalent to how much more damage/utility they bring while being an OT or else there'd be no reason to bring those specializing in being MT.

Think about it this way, if people are already bringing 2x WAR even with the LB penalty, what would happen to MT specializing tanks like PLD/DRK if they were to introduce another WAR-type tank under a different name which brings the same amount of damage/utility and defenses of a WAR?