Lets nerf WAR :D

[Tyrial]

So yeah. I will agree with you that they are an inherently selfish class, because I've met quite a few that are more interested in doing max DPS on their own with repeated BB combos than in keeping these debuffs up 100% of the time for their group.

This is a load of crap and holds no weight in the discussion. Any WAR doing this is garbage and should be replaced. Spamming nothing but BB is a DPS loss over rotating BB and SE and any half decent WAR knows this.

[Syzygian]

This is a load of crap and holds no weight in the discussion. Any WAR doing this is garbage and should be replaced. Spamming nothing but BB is a DPS loss over rotating BB and SE and any half decent WAR knows this.

You would be suprised. I'm not saying that such a WAR literally spams BB and never puts up SP or SE, but they will let them fall off if they're fighting for aggro against skilled DPS (happens more than you might think, especially in A2S) or in the case of SP specifically, just don't see the need to apply it because of a toxic mentality that values DPS over mitigation in a lot of scenarios. I've had a WAR actually argue with a group on having SP up 100% because he just didn't think it was necessary, while our WHM was having to spam Cure2 instead of Cure. Silly things like this. Anyway, I'm not the one that originally said they were selfish. Find that guy and talk to him. Their utility is very helpful.

[Iagainsti]

You would be suprised. I'm not saying that such a WAR literally spams BB and never puts up SP or SE, but they will let them fall off if they're fighting for aggro against skilled DPS (happens more than you might think, especially in A2S) or in the case of SP specifically, just don't see the need to apply it because of a toxic mentality that values DPS over mitigation in a lot of scenarios. I've had a WAR actually argue with a group on having SP up 100% because he just didn't think it was necessary, while our WHM was having to spam Cure2 instead of Cure. Silly things like this. Anyway, I'm not the one that originally said they were selfish. Find that guy and talk to him. Their utility is very helpful.

To add to this, even though BB has a higher potency,it is a dps loss compared to an SE rotation. Honestly my MT opener has always been Tomahawk>Heavy Swing>Unchained>Maim>SE>Brutal Swing>then BB combo(all under the effect of IR for increased crits). As long as I have a good enmity lead I just rotate both SP/SE and negate BB unless aggro starts slipping. Even in SA2, a warrior shouldn't have pack aggro problems between OP and Flash(which doesn't break your combo; you can flash between SE/SP combos. all youre missing is 1-2GCD).

[Tyrial]

You would be suprised. I'm not saying that such a WAR literally spams BB and never puts up SP or SE, but they will let them fall off if they're fighting for aggro against skilled DPS (happens more than you might think, especially in A2S)

This should never be happening...the aggro lead you can establish on single target and AoE groups is ridiculous and the only time they'll be losing aggro is if they get caught off guard or run out of TP (which only happens during AoE situations).