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    R'tahjha Asah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisersoke View Post
    they dont really need the hp the gain from defiance, considering they even go as far as to wear str accessories, and the extra boost to healing is just healer buffer.
    You do know that every tank wears STR accessories, right?
    The HP and heal increase on Defiance is the only way WAR has comparable eHP to both the PLD and DRK in their respective tanking stances. This has been established since 2.1.
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airswimmer View Post
    You do know that every tank wears STR accessories, right?
    The HP and heal increase on Defiance is the only way WAR has comparable eHP to both the PLD and DRK in their respective tanking stances. This has been established since 2.1.
    And the increase to their eHP is dependant on the healer for it to be effective. It's only relevant if the Warrior is topped up, otherwise is irrelevant.
    @kaisersoke #byeFelicia
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    Grant Highwind
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    The problem with this thread, and others like it, is that no one really cares why WAR has the kit it has, or deals the damage it does. All they see is that WARs have it, and they want it. SE will buff PLD if it sees fit. No ammount of arguing on the forums will help, and they likely wont take any of these dreadfull ideas with them. I understand the need to vent, but do we really need 2 or 3 threads a day devoted to it? This community (tank forums) useed to be a treasure trove of info. not the insult driven debacle it has devolved to. This is Anger all over again. DON'T FEED THE TROLL!
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    Zaisoke Kaiser
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airswimmer View Post
    You do know that every tank wears STR accessories, right?
    The HP and heal increase on Defiance is the only way WAR has comparable eHP to both the PLD and DRK in their respective tanking stances. This has been established since 2.1.
    yeah? you mean to tell me they established the math of dark knights several patches before they released? hmmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisersoke View Post
    yeah? you mean to tell me they established the math of dark knights several patches before they released? hmmm...
    Because you're an SE designer? More than likely they did establish the math of DRK way before it was released
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    Because you're an SE designer? More than likely they did establish the math of DRK way before it was released
    im not even going to begin to go into why this doesnt make sense, but seeing as we were still waiting.. 3 more patches for the first new job, roughly 9 to 11 months, i doubt they were doing much math concerning drk with such a small dev team... please use your brain
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    Player Iagainsti's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisersoke View Post
    im not even going to begin to go into why this doesnt make sense, but seeing as we were still waiting.. 3 more patches for the first new job, roughly 9 to 11 months, i doubt they were doing much math concerning drk with such a small dev team... please use your brain
    LOL the irony! Anyway, I bet they did, seeing how that's what they're paid to do. You really think the designers haven't run modules with all classes on all content? You just want to argue without thinking it through.

    #ByeFelicia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    LOL the irony! Anyway, I bet they did, seeing how that's what they're paid to do. You really think the designers haven't run modules with all classes on all content? You just want to argue without thinking it through.

    #ByeFelicia
    poor little biased warrior main cant deal with other peoples opinions, or even the fact hat square was not balancing the game around dark knight grit in 2.1

    QQ
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    Celest Ru'milan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisersoke View Post
    yeah? you mean to tell me they established the math of dark knights several patches before they released? hmmm...
    Well in his defense Grit is exactly equivalent to shield oath in almost every way applicably.
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