Lets nerf WAR :D

[SpookyGhost]

Lets nerf WAR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcKZl7lXy7c

[Giantbane]

Why? WAR feels like it's in a really good place. Shouldn't the ideal be to bring PLD and DRK up to that level?

[Syzygian]

Why? WAR feels like it's in a really good place. Shouldn't the ideal be to bring PLD and DRK up to that level?

The point is it could get nerfed and still be in a really good place. Being in a really good place and being overpowered, meta-dominating, and broken are different things. Rather than buff PLD and DRK and risk upsetting the balance further (it would not take much buffing to PLD to put DRK where PLD is now, and they can't buff DRK without PLD crying even harder, so they would really have to buff both, not one or the other), they should simply bring WAR down a notch. DRK is only used because of how magic focused the raids are, if they were physical, you could easily bring PLD or DRK, but you'd still ALWAYS bring a WAR. They aren't going to bring DRK and PLD up to that level, at least not on DPS, because they (foolishly imo) stated that DPS is part of WAR's utility. LOLOLOLOL WHY NOT JUST SAY "WINNING IS PART OF WAR'S UTILITY"?

So unless they decide to go back on what Yoshi P said, they ain't bringing PLD and DRK up to WAR DPS in both MT and OT slots any time soon. But they could nerf WAR's DPS and mitigation ---slightly--- in order to make them not utterly mandatory for any progression group.

The power and ease with which WAR wields it while maintaining survivability is great and if they actually buff the damage and ease of DPSing while mitigating damage on the other two tanks up to WAR levels, great. I just feel like that's unlikely and a more convoluted solution than to simply take WAR down a peg from "broken and OP" to "a good, well rounded tank that performs in content and has adequate raid utility".

Pretty much, what I believe, is that PLD and DRK are tanks, and WAR is an overpowered obscenity. Rather than make PLD and DRK overpowered obscenities, since they function fine in a vacuum unless they're having to fight for a raid-slot against a WAR, they should just make WAR a tank. =P

Go try and make a raid group with a PLD/DRK composition, I dare you. Unless they're all REALLY good friends, they're gonna laugh in your face.

[Abbul_Stonecleaver]

I haven't read the thread, I just want to say I wish bad bad things for you creating this terrible thread.

[Evae]

I haven't read the thread, I just want to say I wish bad bad things for you creating this terrible thread.

The fact that you're saying this while having Marauder lvl 60 as your main in your profil kinda makes me wanna laugh at your face.

[Abbul_Stonecleaver]

The fact that you're saying this while having Marauder lvl 60 as your main in your profil kinda makes me wanna laugh at your face.

I've advocated slight buffs to Pal in the areas they need.


Advocating nerfs is just petty and stupid.

[kensatsu]

War want the PLD to get buff and Dark/Pld want to nerf war again,
the tread will never die XD.
War nerf or Pld buff that is the question XD
Can we get rid of the tree tank and get the DarkWarLaDin SE please
He have Dark Art and berserk to buff The Fell Cleave, an axe, a shield, he slashing debuff and have a invincibility of 10 sec, he have forteress to make parry and procc inner beast, he can instant clemensy ! everyone will be happy

[Syzygian]

I've advocated slight buffs to Pal in the areas they need.


Advocating nerfs is just petty and stupid.

I love that people are literally bumping this thread back to the top every time its about to scroll off just to tell me I'm stupid. xD

WAR does not necessarily need nerfs. Hell, nothing "needs" a nerf, like, ever. I just thought it'd be interesting to discuss how a hypothetical nerf could achieve tank balance from another direction, while ideally leaving WAR's playstyle and mechanics intact. I can delete this and make a buff PLD thread instead if you like. :P

[Freyyy]

I love that people are literally bumping this thread back to the top every time its about to scroll off just to tell me I'm stupid. xD

WAR does not necessarily need nerfs. Hell, nothing "needs" a nerf, like, ever. I just thought it'd be interesting to discuss how a hypothetical nerf could achieve tank balance from another direction, while ideally leaving WAR's playstyle and mechanics intact. I can delete this and make a buff PLD thread instead if you like. :P

People only read the title, that's it.

[Abbul_Stonecleaver]

I love that people are literally bumping this thread back to the top every time its about to scroll off just to tell me I'm stupid. xD

WAR does not necessarily need nerfs. Hell, nothing "needs" a nerf, like, ever. I just thought it'd be interesting to discuss how a hypothetical nerf could achieve tank balance from another direction, while ideally leaving WAR's playstyle and mechanics intact. I can delete this and make a buff PLD thread instead if you like. :P

That post was in reply to Evae.

My initial post was a light hearted "oh you son of a-" post.. Evae got offended by it and I responded accordingly to his post.