I'm a male healer and I don't want to dress like a girl

[Azazua_azura]

I apologize if I sounded rude somehow, I truly appreciate the feedback. English is not my mother language. I am a very pro-inclusive guy, don't get me wrong , again, thank you for your feedback

sok I'm not offended just try to use ur words better. "Always" a fem product company has been putting it out there that the phrase "like a girl" has been too negative and used as an insult. Like a famous line from "the sand lot" "you throw a ball like a girl" meaning weakly and bad which in turn sorta means girls are weak. I'm all for more options, and looking at the Gatheing and crafting gear that can infact be used as mage glam. and early gear was labled "all classes" so there are "for now options" but agree more options is always welcome.

[Nadirah]

The FFIII sprite is male, the game confirms all 4 onion kids are boys. The design is clear the same as the NES FFI white mage, just facing slightly different. Therefore NES FFI white mage = Male. Remakes retconned him to female due later games, and fan perception of the sprite being tainted by 8 bit theater.


Also, you can't claim that the remakes and NES version of FFI are the same regardless of if you agree with my logic, it CAN be ignored.

I've always thought the FF1 whm sprite to be female before the internet made 8 bit theatre.

Retcon or not though, it's female. End of story.

[CosmicKirby]

Remakes retconned him to female due later games, and fan perception of the sprite being improved by 8 bit theater.

There we go.

I'd consider the original FF1 WHM to be Androgynous, and the PSP version is separate from the original, similar to how the DS version of FF3 is distinctly different as well.

But at the end of the day it doesn't matter much. Iunno, I wouldn't really take Yoshi's direct word about the matter too seriously. He started game development in the N64 era. He might have specifically asked what gender the FF1 WHM was, or it might have just been his perception on the matter.

Plus he capped out early with his magnum-opus of Bomberman 64: The Second Attack anyway, so we're really just on a downward spiral.

sok I'm not offended just try to use ur words better. "Always" a fem product company has been putting it out there that the phrase "like a girl" has been too negative and used as an insult.

And they primarily made that commercial to help sell their feminine health products.

I wouldn't put too much weight behind that.
A.) It's almost universally said by young children. Children not being well known for their nuance and critical thinking skills. Girls probably make similar statements about boys acting out of their perceived gender as well.
B.) Our concept of gender isn't inherently damaging. How we react to people not conforming to it is. Simply noticing someone doesn't conform and pointing it out isn't necessarily bad.

[BunnyChain]

I wouldn't mind more masculine healer gear if we also get more feminine tank gear!

Or here's a better idea: allow people to glamour everything onto everything (maybe sans the job-specific gear).

[Nadirah]

I wouldn't mind more masculine healer gear if we also get more feminine tank gear!

Or here's a better idea: allow people to glamour everything onto everything (maybe sans the job-specific gear).

More plate bikinis plz.

And I really wish the taffeta/coliseum top didn't have a hood.

[Noxifer]

A.) It's almost universally said by young children. Children not being well known for their nuance and critical thinking skills. Girls probably make similar statements about boys acting out of their perceived gender as well.
B.) Our concept of gender isn't inherently damaging. How we react to people not conforming to it is. Simply noticing someone doesn't conform and pointing it out isn't necessarily bad.

A) Just look at stuff said during various team sports training. "Girls" is often used as a derogatory term. It's not limited to children, and children listen to how adults behave; they don't exist in a vacuum. And I've never heard a girl say things like, "Stop crying, you're not a boy, are you?"
And before you comment that crying isn't something boys do and girls don't... That's pretty much the problem. The 'perceived gender' behaviour is still founded on the notion that male is the ideal to strive for. Hence why it's not 'weird' when women crossdress, because pants are good. Suits are good. But whenever men crossdress, it's weird, or ugly, or 'gay', or otherwise 'wrong'.
B) It's damaging when it limits the behaviour of men or women out of fear that we'll be seen as weird (at best) or assaulted.

Not trying to come off as aggressive or anything, but it's a subject I feel fairly passionately about ^^;

[AltanRapsied]

There is glam options?
The Dreadwyrm gear looks pretty cool or maybe some of the PVp gear.

Do you realise healing dreadwyrm gear looks like a shrine maiden lol

[Kuwagami]

Do you realise healing dreadwyrm gear looks like a shrine maiden lol

no, not really. (if at all)

[Eul]

Do you realise healing dreadwyrm gear looks like a shrine maiden lol

Nope, yasha outfit for healer/caster is more like shrine maiden

[Hayward]

I'm sorry, this is the FFXIV forums, is it not? This isn't the Red Pill Reddit sewer, right?

The level of insecurity is...not of this world.