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    Matches required to reach rank 50 (including log, roulette, etc...)

    I wrote a simulation to test out how long it actually takes to rank up if you do the following:
    • Frontlines Roulette every day
    • Wolves den challenge log clear every week after rank 30+ (I also included not doing the den log)

    Results are here: http://i.imgur.com/YvmRv5u.png



    Some cool things I learned:

    1. You can lose every game and do 1 game per day (via roulette), and it takes 483 games to hit max rank if you don't do a den clear.

    2. If you do your den log and have a 33% win rate, it takes 38 weeks to hit max rank if you only do 7 games per week. If your queues are 15 mins, and a game takes 15 mins, and your den clear takes 1 hour per week, this will take you about 165 hours, or about 1 week of playtime

    3. If you win every game, you can hit max rank in 223 games over the course of 64 weeks.

    If anyone is curious, I wrote the simulation in MATLAB and ran it about 1000 times for each scenario then took the average of all these scenarios.

    Shout outs to C'eve for his PvP tool found here: https://goo.gl/j1DYxd , I used it as a reference to get all of the exp numbers and it was extremely useful.

    Update: 11/6/2015 - Now that the preliminary patch notes are out for 3.1 we know the following will change:

    [2.0] The number of PvP experience points earned from Frontline has been increased as follows:
    - First place has been increased from 400 to 600
    - Second place has been increased from 300 to 450.
    - Third place has been increased from 200 to 300.

    [2.0] The amount of PVP experience points gained from Duty Roulette: Frontline has been increased from 400 to 600.

    As promised, here is the updated chart with these changes: http://i.imgur.com/Yz4m2yA.png



    And for reference, here's a chart showing the difference between 3.1 and 3.0: http://i.imgur.com/2HRP2uT.png

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    Last edited by Blubbers; 11-07-2015 at 04:16 AM.

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    Damn i havnt touched matlab since i was at uni

    simulink ended up being the saviour and bane of my existance at the same time thanks to lack of consistency Q_Q
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    LOL oh man, I only used it because I've got it at work, but it makes stuff like this super easy. At first I thought about doing the math out, but I realized writing a simulation was waaay easier and less prone to errors.
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    Does 7 matches/week include the challenge log bonuses for FL after 33% win rate?, only a 3 match reduction past rank 30 sounds a little off

    that being said im moderately inebriated right now and its 2am so i might be wrong
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    I just reached rank 30, Den queues are super stupid long (3 hours...more?) That said, I should give up on Den queues and run Frontlines instead as I can fit 4-5 games in that amount of time.
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    wow Tarta
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    Yeah in that situation, you definitely want to just do FL. The den clear is more if you use party finder to set up a group, if you do that and balance the ranks yourself it takes about 1 hour total to get all your matches, otherwise you're better off just cranking frontlines!
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    I'm an Adder, I lost a lot and it took 1,050 Frontline matches to get rank 50.
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    This table assumes you do your frontlines roulette for the first match every day, so since you've been playing since secure you've been queuing way before frontlines rouelette was a thing. Also your games could count matches where you had been capped at 40/45 before when those were the max rank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CeveArthu View Post
    Does 7 matches/week include the challenge log bonuses for FL after 33% win rate?, only a 3 match reduction past rank 30 sounds a little off

    that being said im moderately inebriated right now and its 2am so i might be wrong
    Yep, that entire table is from rank 1-50 and 30+ assumes you do the den clear. I think there's a lot going on right around the point you mention, the first 3 wins are worth the most, then you get a ton from daily FR roulette, and if you're doing fewer matches overall the den clear helps out more, so it's hard to disambiguate all of them from each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blubbers View Post
    This table assumes you do your frontlines roulette for the first match every day, so since you've been playing since secure you've been queuing way before frontlines rouelette was a thing. Also your games could count matches where you had been capped at 40/45 before when those were the max rank.
    oh that's right. so it might be around 800 matches.
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