Additiona freel retainers

[KingOfAbyss]

Expanding our inventory and adding retainers are two different things, and consume resources differently. Expanding our inventory directly increases network and server loads (not just theirs, but across the internet as well) in addition to the increase in used space on the servers. Remember, our inventory is continually updated in the background whether we are interactig with it or not. In contrast, retainers mostly only increase the used space on the servers (though they may have an impact on network/server loads with increased presence on the market boards).

Just saying, there is a bit more to the story under the hood than some may realize.

Yup, you are right about putting the retainers on the Market Board for selling our stuff.

If they really had the server stress issues, they wouldn't have moved from their stances and kept 2 retainers only. I see it as a scheme to make more money.

We all want this game to last for years. Yoshi saved it with 2.0, with 3.0, they are becoming more fragile imho. Hopefully he'll open his Ahriman's eyes before the fall. (pun intended)

I am having too high expectations for the coming 4.0. But that means I love this game so much I don't mind paying for 6 months ahead when the patches are pushed back for more than the 3 months predicted. That means that the next one might be on time, but those after, no one is sure and they can have another explanation (all the Devs got the same sickness for 2 weeks) to justify their lateness, for example.

So yeah, I don't mind paying extra money for retainers. Just be.. coherent with your talk, SE.

[KarstenS]

A. We are very limited in resources for data. Resources are mainly being used for other content. Also the more items that you carry/ the larger your storage becomes

The storage space for 8 retainers is locked for every char, if they pay for the 6 additional retainers or not.

And yes. More retainers for money are pay2win. With 2 retainers on ventures I've made some millions of gil in the last weeks just by them. If I would have 8 retainers, I could get much more out of it.

[Thandronen]

We should've been given at least one free extra retainer with Heavensward.

[Wildsprite]

We should've been given at least one free extra retainer with Heavensward.

This.
Although I would have been happy if they made it so we had to do a quest to get it honestly making it so you don't just get the extra retainer

[sirDarts]

I used to be OK with inventory space hoarding everything.
But then I started playing DRG, and BTN and suddenly all went to hell. My both retainers filled up instantly, and so did my own inventory.

Well I just said F it, and I instantly sell everything that has a market board value over 100, outside of Dyes and Glam Prisms, and toss the stuff that has no value or is untradeable.

[CrystalRainbow]

This argument falls apart here is why, if EVERYONE paid for MAX retainers we could break everything. OR they would need to say... sorry MAX retainers on server XXXXXXX is reached sorry to all our other paying customers.


My wife is a fisher.. and her fishing bait and lures takes up 20ish slops 100% of the time because we will be out doing something and then I get up to go get a drink. and she stops and fishes for 4-5 mins.

[Felis]

This argument falls apart here is why, if EVERYONE paid for MAX retainers we could break everything. OR they would need to say... sorry MAX retainers on server XXXXXXX is reached sorry to all our other paying customers.

Because it cost money the chance is very low that EVERYONE will buy the max amount of retainers. Most will only pay for 1 or 2 retainers.

[BreathlessTao]

You know, this is a little on the side, but it does come up sooner or later whenever inventory is being discussed: re-instate that damn auto-afk-kick feature and keep it permanent. All the talk about strain on servers this and limits in data resources that - the number of times that insanely frequent inventory backup has been brought up (indeed, that in itself should be nerfed, very much), it's a miracle that nobody thinks of it in regards to this. Every day I see at least a dozen people in every city being afk for 8-12-16 hours, just rooted to the same spot, being idle. It boggles my mind that considering all these hindrances, such waste of network/hardware is being allowed (without a second thought?)... I'm pretty sure it could ease up on that stress quite a bit if these characters were kicked off (with workarounds for fake conversations and crafting, though mostly I don't even see them like that anymore), making it less of a headache to provide a bigger inventory.

[Erim-Nelhah]

You know, this is a little on the side, but it does come up sooner or later whenever inventory is being discussed: re-instate that damn auto-afk-kick feature and keep it permanent. (snip)

If they did this, they'd have to make the feature server-side instead of client-side. Currently the AFK Kick feature is entirely client-side (when it's turned on at all) and can be circumvented incredibly easily without using any 3rd-party addons. I think the reason they don't implement it server side, tho, is because of the way cutscenes are implemented (kicking someone offline in the middle of a cutscene can crash the client), so implementing a server-side AFK Kick feature may not be as trivial as it seems on the surface. Just something to keep in mind.

--Erim Nelhah

[dragonkyn20]

Oh hey I remember this from gameFAQs lol