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    Player
    Waeksyn's Avatar
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    Waekswys Styrmwyn
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    Yup, my retainers bring back lots of crap as well!

    What I'm trying to figure out is the ilvl / Gth stat threshold used in the game to gate the rare stuff. On my gatherer (gathering = 500), when I do a Quick exploration, I get the message "Your retainer's current gear should improve the chances of finding rare items."

    Does that mean I'm at the maximum, useful level? What are the exact thresholds? I know that you need ilvl 140 to hunt for level 60 mats (the game tells you that) but not sure about quick exploration thresholds.
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    KaedrianLiang's Avatar
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    Kaedrian Kaeng
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    DoL Retainers:

    level 51-55 specified ventures. Retainer level 60.

    Only Main Hand equipped: Brings back 15 items

    Full gear: brings back 30 items


    DoW retainer:

    Memory is a bit fuzzy, but didn't HW Combat ventures start out by brining back 5 items and caps out at 10 items with full high level gear?
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    Stormfur's Avatar
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    The World of Darkness
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    Character
    Hex Pathcrosser
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 72
    Speaking of gathering retainers, is level 55 the highest they can go for 18 hour ventures?
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    Speaking of gathering retainers, is level 55 the highest they can go for 18 hour ventures?
    For now, yes. But like in 2.x new 18h ventures will be adding during main patches. The lv60 18h ventures would start to give out rare mats (like the lv50 ones do).
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    Last edited by Felis; 09-22-2015 at 05:06 PM.

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    Espritduo's Avatar
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    Character
    Esprit Libre
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Around 578-ish Gathering is required to bring back the max 30 of the highest level crafting mats from regular 1hr ventures for gatherer retainers. Perception does affect how often and how much HQ they bring back, but it is still pretty random. There seems to be threshold below which they will never bring back HQ items, but I not sure what it is. When I didn't bother with any Perception gear, my retainers never brought back HQ items, when I decked them out with the best stuff, they sometimes brought back no HQ, sometimes full 30 HQ, and anywhere in between.

    For battle retainers, i150 is the bare minimum to bring back the max 10 of the highest level mats, and I assume ilevel also affects HQ rate.

    Quick ventures are completely random regardless of your retainers stats or levels or gear or anything. The only thing that makes a difference is Gathering (ilevel for battle retainers) for the "items most rare", which is actually not a very large pool of items, most of which are mostly useless now in 3.0. Super rare stuff like EX primal mats and coil rare drops are just super rare tier items, with nothing you can do to increase (or decrease) your chances of getting them.

    18hr ventures have a relatively disappointing selection of mats, even at the level 51 and level 55 ventures. At the 51 and 55 level you always get a small pile of allagan pieces, and then some random mat needed for the zodiac crafted mats, or the forager/supra/lucis gathering tools, or rosemary/virgin basilisk eggs for Tinker's Calms. The only real purpose of these is the super rare returns. The level 51 ventures bring back the same rare minions and rare mats that the level 50 ventures did, things like Floss Silk, Fat Cats, and the like. Level 55 also brings back these rare items, along with Iron Giant Scraps (Miner), Lupin Seedling ( Botanist), Bear Skin (Hunter), and Gestahl (Fisher).
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    Last edited by Espritduo; 09-22-2015 at 01:14 PM.

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    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Character
    Nadirah Serenity
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    Mine brings back dye regularly. Arcanist. Two of them, but one hunt for stuff to sell.

    No gathering retainers. Mixed dungeon gear, though Kyn is wearing my old healing accessories. Wish she could wear my old healer gear...
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