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  1. #21
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    Natashi Tamaruo
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    Mateus
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    I'm reading this thread with all these made up bard abilities that I had to reread them again..what..???
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    Is it reset Tuesday yet.

    I question whether I'm playing a PvE game with PvP mixed in, or I am I playing a PfG.

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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    Bards have one heavy if they cross class feint, no stuns, and one bind that breaks as soon as the target takes damage.

    I think I've gotten two kills with bard lb ever, and they were from the same lb fired into the middle of a massive 3 way skirmish. :/
    Feint causes slow, no heavy. It slows their attack speed but not movement speed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    It supposed to have some flaw as it's a ranged LB.
    Flaws which are the same as casters except worse in every aspect; The damage is lower, the effective width is a joke, and the distance range is irrelevant because it doesnt work on slopes (and the aforementioned width still makes for it very easy to avoid, even in some of the bottlenecks like the center of Seal Rock.)
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    Selli Noblesse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natashio View Post
    I'm reading this thread with all these made up bard abilities that I had to reread them again..what..???
    I haven't seen anyone say a skill name that isn't in PvE, but I went ahead and got this link for you anyway: http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/PvP_Actions

    (Aside from "Cometeor" which is a caster thing and not a Bard thing.)
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    Avi Taro
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Feint causes slow, no heavy. It slows their attack speed but not movement speed.
    Whoops must have misread it. I knew it didn't effect movement speed but the fact that its called slow has always thrown me off, heh. Keep mixing up slow and heavy.

    ...so yeah, bards don't have a stun or a heavy.
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    Last edited by Avidria; 09-22-2015 at 01:19 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Vandal Lillithson
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    Get a better weapon? LB damage is largely dependent on the weapon damage of the user. Ranged characters just tend to have a lower number then other class types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lego3400 View Post
    Get a better weapon? LB damage is largely dependent on the weapon damage of the user. Ranged characters just tend to have a lower number then other class types.
    LB is dependent on the average Ilvl of the weapon of everyone in the party, not the user. While Ranged LB is still weaker than caster in PvE, the thread is about PvP which Ilvl syncs everyone to ilvl150 anyway.
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    Bard Lv 90
    If you aren't using shadow bind or Leg Graze/The-Bind-For-Machinist-Which-Escapes-me-right-now, you shouldn't be playing Bard/MCH in PVP until you learn how to, .
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    Alexander Dragonfang
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    idk how to play, SE, buff me.

    First, adrenaline is for crucial use only, second, its a ranged LB with a long AoE, you can`t have it buffed more than it is. Both caster and ranged LB are made to be heavy damage dealers to an area, not killers like the melee ones. And, considering the advantages of no casting time and firing on the move of both DEX ranged above the casters, is pretty obvious that the LB needs to do less damage too. You can`t have it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    idk how to play, SE, buff me.

    First, adrenaline is for crucial use only, second, its a ranged LB with a long AoE, you can`t have it buffed more than it is. Both caster and ranged LB are made to be heavy damage dealers to an area, not killers like the melee ones. And, considering the advantages of no casting time and firing on the move of both DEX ranged above the casters, is pretty obvious that the LB needs to do less damage too. You can`t have it all.
    Wat. Ranged LB isn't instant cast, and their non-GB or WM damage is an utter joke that they have to stand still.

    And also, the longer range is irrelevant because the width is an absolute joke they they can quite literally side step and avoid it completely, let alone it not working if there's even a small difference in elevation
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 09-23-2015 at 03:17 AM.
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