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    Player
    Cabalabob's Avatar
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by adn View Post
    But really, drop it in a chokepoint and people have nowhere to run. I do agree perhaps the area of effect could be a bit wider.
    Well this goes back to problem 1, yes this is pretty much the only way to use it, but you can't just drop it on a choke point you need to pick an ideal target in that chokepoint to get it central or you'll miss everything by aiming off to the side somewhere, which is why it really needs to be manually aimed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    The anonymity of the internet is what leads people to become jerks online.

    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

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    FoxyAreku's Avatar
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Bind, sleep, or stun someone first before using it, or use it down a narrow pathway, as seal rock has a lot of those. It's fine.
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Machinist Lv 80
    I like how the OP didn't mention the biggest problem with the ranged LB; It doesn't work on slopes or any changes in elevation. Even if you have a bottleneck node like the southeastern uphill one, it won't hit anyone if they are on a different elevation on you.

    Other than that, it's effective range is an utter joke to justify it doing less than a caster LB; The width isn't any wider than bodies standing next to each other. And personally, I can't tell if I'm shooting where I'm facing or at who I'm targeting because I don't see my projected AoE.

    The only time I can reliably use it is to overlap with a caster who is setting up their caster LB to garunteed a kill. Me using it by myself hits for 4k-4.5k at the most and probably won't hit anyone by itself unless they're holmgang'd or stunned.

    Quote Originally Posted by adn View Post
    More like nerf the melee LB please. And fix Cometeor so that I don't get hit by it even when I'm out of it. And make the healer LB affect all players on the entire map pls yoshi-p. And give my WAR the DPS LB instead of the tank one so I can one-shot people.

    But really, drop it in a chokepoint and people have nowhere to run. I do agree perhaps the area of effect could be a bit wider.
    The choke points located in the center-ish area of the maps aren't narrow enough to make full advantage of it. As for the nodes that have bottle neck entrances, they're on different elevations so it doesn't hit either (specifically, the uphill node close to center and the uphill one on the SE side of the map)
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    Neridia Neririncia
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    Tonberry
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I wish the range LB would be kind of similar to caster LB. But instead of a telegraph round area where you can cast it within the range, have it like a straight line telegraph starting from you and extended it to the limited range would be easier to cast.
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    Yojimbo
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    I am one of the worst players ever and even then I don't think that I have ever so much as taken damage from a BRD/MCH LB in PVP, even when the enemy team is playing well and trying to sync it up with their team's burst. Everything they are saying about it is true; it's noticeably the least effective LB and it doesn't work right anyway with the elevation glitch. The only real use it seems to have right now is to frighten players into stepping away from the template if your team is around you and you want to make some space, which is sort of lame for the time it takes to use it.
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    loreleidiangelo's Avatar
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    Most BRD/MCH I've seen tend to drop it on clusterfucks occurring at a tomelith. It could probably use some adjusting though. For one, it's total bollocks in both PVP AND PVE that you can't even really see its trajectory lol. A width adjustment would probably be okay too...the line is really narrow. I've accidentally ran INTO one and was still able to run through to the other side without taking damage, haha.
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    Pande Monium
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    Odin
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    Sometimes is pointless to use the Ranger LB. Without the shadowbind you will fail or your target being attacked after bind him.

    In the other hand, Caster LB is more effective, the aoe effect is mor wide than ranged lb. If they are not fast to move, targets are affected by the damage. With Our LB, just two steps and /laugh.
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    It supposed to have some flaw as it's a ranged LB.
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    Bards have one heavy if they cross class feint, no stuns, and one bind that breaks as soon as the target takes damage.

    I think I've gotten two kills with bard lb ever, and they were from the same lb fired into the middle of a massive 3 way skirmish. :/
    Feint causes slow, no heavy. It slows their attack speed but not movement speed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    It supposed to have some flaw as it's a ranged LB.
    Flaws which are the same as casters except worse in every aspect; The damage is lower, the effective width is a joke, and the distance range is irrelevant because it doesnt work on slopes (and the aforementioned width still makes for it very easy to avoid, even in some of the bottlenecks like the center of Seal Rock.)
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    Avi Taro
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Feint causes slow, no heavy. It slows their attack speed but not movement speed.
    Whoops must have misread it. I knew it didn't effect movement speed but the fact that its called slow has always thrown me off, heh. Keep mixing up slow and heavy.

    ...so yeah, bards don't have a stun or a heavy.
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    Last edited by Avidria; 09-22-2015 at 01:19 PM. Reason: spelling

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