Scholar possible buffs

[Rishelle]

If you guys would, oh I don't know, give your reasoning behind scholar being "OP" it would give more weight to your replies.

maybe you only play sch?
maybe you have bad whms/asts in your groups?
based on these replies, no points on scholar NOT needing buffs has been made.

Yes, as an FC we've talked about it, we all share the same complaints with sch over our other healers, so this is what we came up with. Educated feedback is appreciated.

Rather than giving us a "eh, you're stupid" response try giving an intelligent one that might actually help us understand your view of sch. Ours are different. Doesn't mean it's stupid.

Personally, I wouldn't change a thing on the other healers.

Also, omgfcmembersaresupportingeachotherwhataproblem.

[DarkmoonVael]

If you guys would, oh I don't know, give your reasoning behind scholar being "OP" it would give more weight to your replies.

maybe you only play sch?
maybe you have bad whms/asts in your groups?
based on these replies, no points on scholar NOT needing buffs has been made.

Yes, as an FC we've talked about it, we all share the same complaints with sch over our other healers, so this is what we came up with. Educated feedback is appreciated.

Rather than giving us a "eh, you're stupid" response try giving an intelligent one that might actually help us understand your view of sch. Ours are different. Doesn't mean it's stupid.

Personally, I wouldn't change a thing on the other healers.

Also, omgfcmembersaresupportingeachotherwhataproblem.

So in a raid environment: sch brings sustained, high dps for a healer on single targets. On multiple targets (A2S) the only way you can describe sch dps is utterly filthy high. Facilitating this dps is the other 2 core mechanics of the SCH: Fairy and Aetherflow.

The fairy in of itself is very powerful. Embrace once every GCD. Multiple cooldowns to facilitate either higher healing (fey illumination, whispering dawn), powerful utility/mitigation (fey covenant, selenes aoe clense) and high party buff utility (fey wind). The fairy can be placed on the field of battle, making your healing ranger greater than any other healers. The fairy can be used to heal 2 targets with single target, fairly powerful healing spells (one from SCH, one from fairy). The fairy is uneffected by cleric stance. Also, the fairy can pretty much solo heal ex dungeons, making it so the SCH can dps a lot.

Now for Aetherflow. Behind these stacks lie some of the most powerful healing abilities in the game. We have lustrate, a powerful single target instant cast healing ability. Very powerful. We have Indomnibility, aoe instant cast heal, stupidly powerful. We have energy drain, great for weaving in as an oGCD in clerics for more damage, also restores mana. We also have sacred soil, which, apart from some niche raid circumstances, has been over shadowed by indom to a great extent.

SCH and mana issues are pretty much non-existant. With Aetherflow every 60 secs and the ability to use Energy Drain, mana is not an issue too much.

Mitigation is perhaps overlooked by many people, but its powerful, esp on SCH. The ability to mitigate damage via adlo or critadlo is so powerful in a raid environment. The ability to deploy these abilities makes them even more powerful. Preventing the damage from happening in the first place>>>>>healing people up after the damage. And with mitigation on SCH we have adlo (critadlo), succor, sacred soil, supervirus, eye for an eye and fey covenant.

The 3.0 lvl 50-60 abilities have done nothing but made the SCH power felt more, especially in raids. Aoe instant heal, dps nuke spell, deploying adlos, making shields heal instead of shield and murder the fairy (dissapation is in fact very powerful in raids, increasing dps via energy drain and getting the group through that last little bit of the fight where everything has been going wrong due to learning the fight).

TL;DR SCH OP

[Dalvy]

We don't NEED buffs, but I would like to see more uses out of the fairy killer...

[Rin_Kuroi]

We don't NEED buffs, but I would like to see more uses out of the fairy killer...

I'd really like to see the fairy handle better overall. The main reason I'm a whm is because I got too annoyed dealing with that little shit. Maybe I'm just spoiled from other pet classes in other games

[FoxyAreku]

The only way they should ever touch my lustrate is if they make it a % based heal again. God I never thought I would miss that so much...

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

The only way they should ever touch my lustrate is if they make it a % based heal again. God I never thought I would miss that so much...

Again this, why is it even a thing?

Lustrate is 600 potency. With my gear that's good for about 4600 HP recovered. If we'd go back to the 25% value, target player has to have 18400 HP to heal for the same amount. The only jobs who'd have this kind of HP would be: Fully vit oriented paladins and dark knights or warriors in defiance or full vit orientation in deliverance. In a nutshell: Lustrate's far more powerful on non-tanks, especially on casters, roughly the same for paladins and dark knights and slightly weaker on warriors. There's also the thing that Lustrate can crit now, as opposed to the flat 25% value before HW.

The only thing that's majorly different would be that it's affected by cleric's stance now. But that's a simple matter of toggling off and toggling it back on after using lustrate. Unless you have 8 fingers amputated from both your hands, making button pressing a nightmare, how would this be an issue?

[FoxyAreku]

Again this, why is it even a thing?

Lustrate is 600 potency. With my gear that's good for about 4600 HP recovered. If we'd go back to the 25% value, target player has to have 18400 HP to heal for the same amount. The only jobs who'd have this kind of HP would be: Fully vit oriented paladins and dark knights or warriors in defiance or full vit orientation in deliverance. In a nutshell: Lustrate's far more powerful on non-tanks, especially on casters, roughly the same for paladins and dark knights and slightly weaker on warriors. There's also the thing that Lustrate can crit now, as opposed to the flat 25% value before HW.

The only thing that's majorly different would be that it's affected by cleric's stance now. But that's a simple matter of toggling off and toggling it back on after using lustrate. Unless you have 8 fingers amputated from both your hands, making button pressing a nightmare, how would this be an issue?

I do savage and I literally cannot remember the last time I lustrated a non-tank.
So that's...kind of an irrelevant point for me.

Also keeping cleric stance on for entire fights was just nice.

Scholar does lose a lot of Mana at 60, unlike 50.

You really shouldn't have mana problems as a scholar unless you're spamming adlo which is a horrible thing to do.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

I do savage and I literally cannot remember the last time I lustrated a non-tank.
So that's...kind of an irrelevant point for me.

Also keeping cleric stance on for entire fights was just nice.

If you never lustrate a DPS it still makes no difference. In the other post I mentioned non-warrior tanks get healed for the same amount before the change or more, depending on their vitality orientation. It's roughly the same for heavily vit orientated tank while also more effective on full str tanks (who will have around 13000-15000 HP depending on item level). The only ones you'll be healing less for would be warriors in defiance, about 8% less or 23% of their maximum HP pool.