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    Scholar possible buffs

    Lustrate: Since 3.0, I've felt Lustrate to be very lackluster in comparison to other skills. It's considered an "ability", and is therefore unaffected by healing -buffs-. What this means is that even if you use Fey Illumination > Dissipation (insert any other healing buff here), your Lustrate will still heal for the same amount. With now a lower potency (600) than cure 2 (650) and being unaffected by healing buffs, the only bright side it has is the fact that it's an instant heal.

    Suggestions for lustrate: either make it a higher potency to the point that it's actually a "clutch heal" or count it as a "spell" so that healing buffs apply to it. I do agree that the % of HP heals were a bit too strong due to the fact that scholars could stay in Cleric Stance for a very long time in comparison to other healers. However, I do feel as though the NERF they've brought to it left it too weak.

    Eye for an eye + Deployment Tactics: Don't get me wrong, Deployment Tactics is a wonderful skill. However, as of now I've yet to find any REAL use of using Eye for an Eye with Deployment Tactics.

    Suggestions for Eye for an Eye: Make it stackable. HOWEVER, after the first one, each stack would only cost for half previous. Example: Eye for an eye (10%) > Eye for an eye (5%) > Eye for an eye > (2.5%) Eye for an eye (1.25%) > Eye for an eye (0.63%) > Eye for an eye (0.31%) > Eye for an eye (0.15%) > Eye for an eye (0.07%).
    - This would add up to around 19.91%, which would be if the Eye for an eye proc'd on everyone in an 8 man party. In my opinion, it would be enough to take the Eye for an eye + Deployment Tactics out of the "what's this supposed to do.." state. [If anyone has found a use to a party-wide eye for an eye, do mention it below ]

    Dissipation: When I first thought of this skill, I thought it'd be something to encourage the strategy of fairy swapping during battle. However, when you have to sacrifice a swiftcast + the mana to summon a fairy during combat, it's really a high risk skill for a very mediocre reward.

    Suggestions for Dissipation: A simple "Next fairy cast will have no mana cost and instant cast" would greatly encourage the idea of fairy swapping during combat even if it's 30 seconds of healing without one. If that seems too "OP", I would suggest cutting the mana cost but still having to burn your swiftcast. Considering it's a skill used when something goes wrong, I think it's silly that you have to use ANOTHER skill that's mainly for that purpose (swiftcast + raise) just to RECOVER from using an emergency skill.

    All feedback is greatly appreciated.

    TL;DR: Lustrate - Higher potency / Make it a spell.
    Eye for an eye - Make it stackable but with half potency each stack
    Dissipation - No mana cost / instant cast OR half mana cost.
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    Last edited by Maow; 09-21-2015 at 09:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maow View Post
    Eye for an eye + Deployment Tactics: Don't get me wrong, Deployment Tactics is a wonderful skill. However, as of now I've yet to find any REAL use of using Eye for an Eye with Deployment Tactics.
    Confirmed for scrub.



    In all seriousness, though, these proposed buffs would give scholar a competing edge with the other healers.
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    I agree with these buffs. Would help balance scholar with the other two healers a LOT now.

    Still,

    Mmmm bby girl, give luster to my lustrate..
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    Last edited by Rishelle; 09-21-2015 at 10:04 AM.

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    Errrrrr ... I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. SCH is arguably still the most OP class in the game, I still wouldn't dare rep SCH with an AST/WHM as it stands. I could list the billion advantages and why SCH is the best healer still but it really shouldn't even be needed at this point after 2 years.

    Why do you think SCH needs to be buffed???
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    Scholar buffs I would like would turn lustrate back to 25%, eye for an eye that stacks and doesn't decrease in performance, and give pets level 55 and 60 abilities
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    I love how OP and the 2 following posts are on the same FC, it's like a upvote circlejerk.

    On the topic at hand, you're all drunk. SCH is one of the most OP classes ingame and the best of all 3 healers, buffing it would make whm and ast completely obsolete.
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    Amael Yuki
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    I dunno what you have to consume to think scholar of all classes needs buffs, easily the best of the 3 healers right now.
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    Rin Shiraishi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    Errrrrr ... I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. SCH is arguably still the most OP class in the game, I still wouldn't dare rep SCH with an AST/WHM as it stands. I could list the billion advantages and why SCH is the best healer still but it really shouldn't even be needed at this point after 2 years.

    Why do you think SCH needs to be buffed???
    This.

    10char.
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    any sort of explanation as to how scholar is OP would be great so that there's more than "scholar op" and "buff scholar" in this post.
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    Last edited by Maow; 09-21-2015 at 10:43 AM.

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    If you guys would, oh I don't know, give your reasoning behind scholar being "OP" it would give more weight to your replies.

    maybe you only play sch?
    maybe you have bad whms/asts in your groups?
    based on these replies, no points on scholar NOT needing buffs has been made.

    Yes, as an FC we've talked about it, we all share the same complaints with sch over our other healers, so this is what we came up with. Educated feedback is appreciated.

    Rather than giving us a "eh, you're stupid" response try giving an intelligent one that might actually help us understand your view of sch. Ours are different. Doesn't mean it's stupid.

    Personally, I wouldn't change a thing on the other healers.

    Also, omgfcmembersaresupportingeachotherwhataproblem.
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