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  1. #31
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    Rubiss's Avatar
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    Rubiss Tantegel
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I have used Dissipation a few times successfully as a Scholar in Savage. It's not a very good skill, but it has saved the day here and there so I'm a bit conflicted. What it does is gets you out a very sticky situation and puts you in a slightly crappy one later.

    I think Dissipation would be better if the reward was higher. Either a boost to the overall percentage gained to healing (I heard that the 20% isn't even worth it as the fairy healing for 30 seconds greatly outweighs it.) or making it boost spells and abilities. To be honest, if I had to rework Dissipation I'd do it like this...

    Gives the user three aetherflow and desummons their fairy and summons the opposite fairy. So if you used Dissipation with Selene, she would go away and Eos would replace her. Based on which fairy was desummoned the Scholar would gain a different effect. If Selene is desummoned, maybe the entire party gets a haste buff (which can override or stack with Fey Wind). Maybe like 10%? (This is once every 3 minutes, you know). If Eos is desummoned, give the Scholar 20% more healing on spells and abilities.

    That makes Dissipation a lot better I think. As for Emergency Tactics, eh. I'd have gotten Critical Adloquiums with it before and healed someone for like 15k before. It's not bad. I mainly use it in situations where a shield won't do jack shit (prey in A2S) or if someone just need a big heal. I rarely use it with Succor except in double SCH situations, but maybe I should use it more (usually Medica II or Aspected Helios is fine), but I don't think it's very good with Succor. I'd rather shield personally. I won't knock the skill too much. It's good. Not great, but good. If I had to improve it, maybe make the next shield spell instant cast? (It is called EMERGENCY tactics after all.)

    As for Deployment tactics? I think it's great. No complaints. I use it when both tanks are tanking something or if everyone having Eye for an Eye makes sense.

    Broil is good. Direct upgrade from Ruin. Should always be used. Good stuff. No complaints.

    Indominability is exactly what SCH was missing from 2.X. Great spell, no complaints.
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    Last edited by Rubiss; 09-23-2015 at 01:08 PM. Reason: Over the character limit.

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    Sir Rawrz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    Gives the user three aetherflow and desummons their fairy and summons the opposite fairy. So if you used Dissipation with Selene, she would go away and Eos would replace her. Based on which fairy was desummoned the Scholar would gain a different effect. If Selene is desummoned, maybe the entire party gets a haste buff (which can override or stack with Fey Wind). Maybe like 10%? (This is once every 3 minutes, you know). If Eos is desummoned, give the Scholar 20% more healing on spells and abilities.
    I do really like this. It would make Fairy swapping sooo much more rewarding and beautiful even. Everything about the idea is pleasing. It makes the skill less clunky and OH SHET or I NEED MOAR ENERGY DRAINS to Tactical utility for days. xD
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  3. #33
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    Rubiss Tantegel
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    What I dislike about Dissipation really is that we have to generally blow Swiftcast to get the fairy back. It's supposed to be "oh shit" skill but it requires us to save what is arguably our biggest panic button (Swiftcast -> Resurrection) just to balance it. Like if someone dies (or has died in the last 60 seconds) and I reeeeally need Aetherflow, Dissipation is just.. creating a lesser problem later. I dislike that it puts us in a crappy situation later. Not to mention the sheer waste of MP you use just to resummon (and I do understand that with three stacks of Aetherflow, the raw healing you CAN do with that saves more than what the fairy is worth in MP but just because you have three stacks of Aetherflow doesn't mean you need to use them all right away.)

    I get that Scholar is in a very good position right now. Good healer, very balanced in terms of utility. But I don't think it's unreasonable to request a change to at least Dissipation.
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  4. #34
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    LathusWHM's Avatar
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    M'iko Peeko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Since we all know that scholar abilities pretty much past 52 are pretty situational. These are the scholar abilities we should have got.

    60: Dissipation
    Restores 20% of maximum MP.
    Takes 20% of the caster's life.
    Cooldown: 30s

    BLM got this like.... back in 1.0.


    It's called convert >___________>;
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    Tuli Qalli
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 86
    Suggested scholar change:



    Dissipation
    Cast: Instant Recast: 120 Seconds

    Orders your pet to prison shank the other healer, because who even needs them?
    Player dies in real life, all of his or her possessions are transferred to your retainers.

    Additional Effect: If skill is used on a White Mage, you gain the ability to cast regen.
    If skill is used on an Astrologian, the bard will sing your praises and thank you for
    your services, because that douche was giving everybody else the good cards.

    Acquired: Scholar Lv. 60
    Affinity: SCH
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    Adore Mi
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    I really love Rubiss' idea for a fairy switching Dissipation. That would actually make the skill very cool.
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Best use of Dissapation, before a fight like Alex Savage:

    1) Start raid with Eos out.
    2) Get to the boss
    3) Rouse+Whispering Dawn+Fey Illumination
    4) Have WAR immediately use Convalescence (make sure they're in defiance)
    5) Adloquium the WAR
    6) Deployment Tactics the WAR
    7) Start the fight with a huge potency Regen for 20-25s and a 9-12k Galvanize on the raid.
    8) Swiftcast your Fairy out in 30s.

    +80% Potency to that Adloquium with Defiance+Covalescence+Fey Illumination+Dissipation.
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    Last edited by Jonnycbad; 09-24-2015 at 12:39 AM.

  8. #38
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Best use of Dissapation, before a fight like Alex Savage:

    1) Start raid with Eos out.
    2) Get to the boss
    3) Rouse+Whispering Dawn+Fey Illumination
    4) Have WAR immediately use Convalescence (make sure they're in defiance)
    5) Adloquium the WAR
    6) Deployment Tactics the WAR
    7) Start the fight with a huge potency Regen for 20-25s and a 9-12k Galvanize on the raid.
    8) Swiftcast your Fairy out in 30s.

    +80% Potency to that Adloquium with Defiance+Covalescence+Fey Illumination+Dissipation.
    So you waste a shet ton of emergency cds and Overheal with Eos' buffs for the limited 30 seconds MAX of shielding.... .__.
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    Khyan Leikas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    To be honest, if I had to rework Dissipation I'd do it like this...

    Gives the user three aetherflow and desummons their fairy and summons the opposite fairy. So if you used Dissipation with Selene, she would go away and Eos would replace her. Based on which fairy was desummoned the Scholar would gain a different effect. If Selene is desummoned, maybe the entire party gets a haste buff (which can override or stack with Fey Wind). Maybe like 10%? (This is once every 3 minutes, you know). If Eos is desummoned, give the Scholar 20% more healing on spells and abilities.

    That makes Dissipation a lot better I think.
    I don't really care if dissipation stay as it is but I really love your idea. You should make a new thread with this idea.
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    Kabz Il
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    Gives the user three aetherflow and desummons their fairy and summons the opposite fairy. So if you used Dissipation with Selene, she would go away and Eos would replace her. Based on which fairy was desummoned the Scholar would gain a different effect. If Selene is desummoned, maybe the entire party gets a haste buff (which can override or stack with Fey Wind). Maybe like 10%? (This is once every 3 minutes, you know). If Eos is desummoned, give the Scholar 20% more healing on spells and abilities.

    That makes Dissipation a lot better I think.
    I'm also a fan of this, but I think that could be a little OP. Not only are you getting a free fairy switch, you get buffs AND 3 AF stacks? For an instant, no MP cost 3 minute CD move, I think that could be a little much, so I would probably keep the AF stacks out of it. Otherwise the idea of having a move that actually encourages switching fairies sounds perfect!
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