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  1. #1
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    What of this new Pet Glamour System?

    So we aren't getting any new egis, and I've made my peace with that, (runs to corner and cries "SHIVA!", I'm good I swear, *sniffle*) anyway, in response SE has "promised" us a glamour system for our current egis, which I am also okay with (Shiva!). Well I am curious about a few things and wanted to get other peoples opinions on them as well.

    1: Primarily when will we be getting said system? Ideally, since we aren't getting new egis, 3.1 would be best, though launch would've been better, lol.

    2: Hopefully, the egis will be made more viable and not just melee, tank, caster. That being said will each egi only be able to be subbed with a certain one or can we pick and choose? (SHIVA!)

    3: With said glamour system coming, will we get new glamours for every new primal that comes out, and will we get them instantly? Ie, when the expansion comes out we will have Ravana and Bismarck, plus there could be Phoenix as well; will their glamours be available once we defeat them in battle? Possibly under a condidtion, but still.

    4: When (and if) we do get more egis, how will they be affected by the glamours? Will certain glamours be restricted to certain summon commands, because of lore or something?

    5: And what about Scholar? If Summoner is getting a glamour system, why not Scholar too? Maybe people are tired of looking at the same fairy. I know people have been stating that having Phoenix as a pet for Scholars would be great, and there have been plenty of healing pets in FF history, so glamouring the fairy isn't a bad idea either. Plus we could use Carbuncle again, maybe?

    So those are the thoughts. Please list your own thought on what you think this glamour system should be like.
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    Last edited by Eloah; 05-25-2015 at 08:37 PM.
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    Don't get too excited, they only vaguely said they considered it.. IF they implement this (which would only be better than no new egi at all) they need to include fitting attack animations also, watching Shiva spam wind blade would be pretty terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HexWeaver View Post
    Don't get too excited, they only vaguely said they considered it.. IF they implement this (which would only be better than no new egi at all) they need to include fitting attack animations also, watching Shiva spam wind blade would be pretty terrible.
    Thats the reason for this post, I'm currious what everyone would like from this possible system.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    The good way to do it, imo, would be make pets fully customizable.

    You choose the "skin" of your egi/pet and then you set the skills you want. (Any old/new primals, Carbuncles, some bosses like Siren/Diabolos/Fenrir, hell maybe even mog)

    Some skills would be generic, like Single target attack, AoE attack, Single target+debuff, AoE+debuff, ... and these generic skills effects/animations may change depending on the "skin" of your Egi.
    Other skills would be specific, like Contagion (increase duration of DoTs) and Radiant Shield (counters physical dmg suffered) and so on, but any Egi can use it and it would have the same effects/animations.

    Of course there will be need to have some kind of balance to all this, like having 50 points to spend on pet skill allocation (which you can reset any time), and the most powerful skills costs more points, while the weak auto-attack-ish 2-3seconds recast thing costs only 1 or 2 points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aerolol View Post
    The good way to do it, imo, would be make pets fully customizable.

    You choose the "skin" of your egi/pet and then you set the skills you want. (Any old/new primals, Carbuncles, some bosses like Siren/Diabolos/Fenrir, hell maybe even mog)

    Some skills would be generic, like Single target attack, AoE attack, Single target+debuff, AoE+debuff, ... and these generic skills effects/animations may change depending on the "skin" of your Egi.
    Other skills would be specific, like Contagion (increase duration of DoTs) and Radiant Shield (counters physical dmg suffered) and so on, but any Egi can use it and it would have the same effects/animations.

    Of course there will be need to have some kind of balance to all this, like having 50 points to spend on pet skill allocation (which you can reset any time), and the most powerful skills costs more points, while the weak auto-attack-ish 2-3seconds recast thing costs only 1 or 2 points.
    I like this line of thinking, this way we can decide which pet does what, this would allow for both customization and pet versatility.

    Basically, you would pick you summon command, Summon 1, 2, or 3, each staying as caster, tank, and melee. You pick the egi you wish to use for that command, all egis are viable, and then you select moves that work for that type of egi (caster, tank, melee). And as you said certain moves would be the same for all pets, barring animations,, and certain moves would be role/animation specific, like Contagin being a caster move only. And then each egi would have their own enkindle move, that hopefully has a lower cooldown.

    If things are done this way titan wouldn't always have to be a tank pet, but we could make any egi a tank, caster, or melee. This would actually make things easier for SE in the long run, (do we wanna make it easier for them, lol) as this would mean they wouldn't need to give us any new summon commands just new ehi skins and abilities. And I like the idea of using old FF summons too, but right now I think we should focus on primals. But if I get Fenrir and Shiva, Hells yeah.

    That being said the system you indicated sounds like it might take a little more effort than what was "considered". But I think it is something they can do and it would work reasonably well.
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    I'm happy SMN will at least finally "get" Carbuncle.
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    My thoughts on how this Egi glamour was gonna go is the it changes the egi, but keeps the moves the same with different names/animations and the like.
    More or less:
    Shiva = Ifrit
    Leviathan = Titan
    Ramuh = Garuda

    It's the only way it makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ioshua View Post
    My thoughts on how this Egi glamour was gonna go is the it changes the egi, but keeps the moves the same with different names/animations and the like.
    More or less:
    Shiva = Ifrit
    Leviathan = Titan
    Ramuh = Garuda

    It's the only way it makes sense.
    That's sorta what we have now, and it sorta sucks, since it keep each pet seperate, the best that would happen, is instead of everyone using, garuda, some might use emerald carbuncle or ramuh, or instead of ifrit, ruby carbuncle or leviathan, meanwhile titan, shiva, and topaz are stuck on the sidelines as solo pets. Granted we have to see how they changed the pet system now, but this glamour system should fix the versatility issue if it wasn't already.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    I would love this system for a very superficial reason. I'm not considering it for gameplay mechanics or anything...I just simply think that Carbuncles are adorable and would probably main a SMN if I could have all of the Egis looking like that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aerolol View Post
    Big snip
    Well my BF is a 60 summoner, and it said in the quests the reason why we didn't get egi's is because {SPOILERS INCOMING} they would take a greater quantity of aether to summon, and it can risk going out of control, or something along those lines.

    I know a few people who would be more than happy just to have the carby glamours for their pets.
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