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    Reneta Scian
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    3 reasons the Hairstyle Contest really ruffled some feathers...

    [To the Devs]The reason the contest upset many, me included, was the over-representation of finalists from Japan. 3 additional points:

    1) The EU and US aren't going to have the same aesthetic values.

    2) Hairstyle variation for popular styles is fairly limited.

    3) Males and Females tend to have different aesthetic values.

    In Summary - There is a few ways the Dev Team could have been more inclusive. Separating the contest entries by player region, granting each region one hairstyle to represent them. Also worth considering is making aesthetic categories for each gendered hairstyle, like "Casual or Formal", preferably also including categories for people of color or ethnicities which have difficulty emulating Eurocentric or Asian hairstyles. Further, judges need to be accurately representative of gender in society. Human sex ratio across the species is 1.01:1, with all 3 contest regions combined averaging about 52% female and 48% male.
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    Last edited by Reneta_Xian; 09-20-2015 at 10:56 PM.

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    c'est la vie
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    this hairstyle crap is still going on? no more community involvement please. fixes the problem right there
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    Alexalea Snowsong
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    The devs know how much time and resources they can afford to spend on responding to basically a fluff contest. I do agree the voting could and should have been done in a different format (this Like as many as you want but only one counts system just didn't work or make sense) but expecting the devs to do several times more work just to respond to a fun contest is sort of silly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    this hairstyle crap is still going on? no more community involvement please. fixes the problem right there
    Sadly, this may be true, but I do hope it's not the message that the devs take from this. I've seen it happen in other MMOs. The devs try to do something nice, maybe much it up a little and the players revolt.. so the devs just don't do anything similar ever again.
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    Some of the Japanese hairstyles though were presented nicer. Could be the very reason they got more votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Some of the Japanese hairstyles though were presented nicer. Could be the very reason they got more votes.
    Yeah, I think this contest was less about the hairstyles and more about who could draw a prettier picture. I think the male one will translate nicely to an in-game model, but that female one seems like it's going to be so bland and blah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinfeld View Post
    Yeah, I think this contest was less about the hairstyles and more about who could draw a prettier picture. I think the male one will translate nicely to an in-game model, but that female one seems like it's going to be so bland and blah.
    Maybe. I kind of wish the female one could be used on males. We don't have many feminine hairstyles. Feminine hair would look really great on Miqo'te males.

    I also want more male hair on Lalafell females and more female hair on Lalafell males. More unisex hairstyles for those two races.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Maybe. I kind of wish the female one could be used on males. We don't have many feminine hairstyles. Feminine hair would look really great on Miqo'te males.

    I also want more male hair on Lalafell females and more female hair on Lalafell males. More unisex hairstyles for those two races.
    Or more cross-race hairstyles in general. I have long hair IRL (looks like my character's actually) and for me, at least, the choices of long hair available on Male Hyurs sucks. They've come a longer way in adding more long hairstyles, but I feel like most of them don't really look that great. Au'ri Males, on the other hand, have an excellent choice of long hairstyles and I wish they'd let the other races have them as well.
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    Wish they used the poll system they have...:/
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    What could have been more fair was having one winner per region (NA, Japan, Europe).
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