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  1. #1
    Player
    Jonditaru's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/10/04
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    35
    Character
    Jondi Taru
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    双剣士 Lv 60
    Quote 引用元:Bourne_Endeavor 投稿を閲覧
    But then they can't rightly complain their isn't any content available. The game is designed with diversifying in mind. People who only wish to level a few classes have to accept their preference is not what FFXIV will cater towards, and therefore, they may feel there isn't enough content. Put simply, the game cannot possibly appease everyone. So far, one of the primary selling features is being able to level multiple classes with relative ease. They have little reason not to focus on that.
    Yet people feel they HAVE TO level all jobs as stated above. Then what? Will you use every single job for all the current content? if so, how will you be able to gear them all up to par, with how long it takes to get eso or savage gear? Even then, what will you even use any of that gear for, other than alex savage or just being able to say you got, said gear? The whole arguement over leveling all jobs definitely is something to do, but at the same time people don't want to, because they know they'll only use two or maybe even three different jobs.
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    Player
    Twilite's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/20
    Location
    Ul'dah
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    1,478
    Character
    Miranda Madison
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    白魔道士 Lv 80
    Long vacation is long.
    (1)

  3. #3
    Player
    Hezhi's Avatar
    登録日
    2015/08/25
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    125
    Character
    Hezhi Lann
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    モンク Lv 90
    For sure, i hope they are having a good vacation time !

    I'm still discovering FFXIV and it has become one of my favorite game already. Everyone needs a break, sometimes.
    (1)

  4. #4
    Player
    Altera's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/07/19
    Location
    Bergen
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    Character
    Chandani Aranka
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    黒魔道士 Lv 100
    Constructive criticism is absolutly fine, what I do have a problem with, is the people who either plainly says there is no content, leveling sucks, FATEs are boring, PVP is broken, Raids is a chore. I hardly ever see those people say exactly WHY they find X Content boring, broken, lacking etc as that just makes them sound to complain just for the sake of complaining

    If my customers or boss comes to me and says I sucked at my job, without telling me exactly what I did wrong, I will never be able to figure out what/how I should improve upon. Does what I say make any sense at all?

    Just saying Devs fix this game or I am quitting, will not improve the game whatsoever
    (1)

  5. #5
    Player
    Iromi's Avatar
    登録日
    2012/09/10
    Location
    Gridania
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    Character
    Tilla Eversong
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    斧術士 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:Altera 投稿を閲覧
    Constructive criticism is absolutly fine, what I do have a problem with, is the people who either plainly says there is no content, leveling sucks, FATEs are boring, PVP is broken, Raids is a chore. I hardly ever see those people say exactly WHY they find X Content boring, broken, lacking etc as that just makes them sound to complain just for the sake of complaining

    If my customers or boss comes to me and says I sucked at my job, without telling me exactly what I did wrong, I will never be able to figure out what/how I should improve upon. Does what I say make any sense at all?

    Just saying Devs fix this game or I am quitting, will not improve the game whatsoever
    Yeah, I agree...just straight up complaining with no suggest is pointless. If someone points out a dislike, then offers a suggestion, that is awesome But sometimes though, people do need to just say they simply don't care for something, like remember the atma? I loved Atma...I did it all night and day and it didn't bother me one bit, it was fun for me..but others were coming on these forums saying "IT SUCKS!!" "GET RID OF IT FIX ITTTT" with no suggestion lol in the end they did fix it (I think?) or gave players what they asked for, but sometimes the complaints can still help...just all depends on situation ><
    (1)

  6. #6
    Player
    Jonditaru's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/10/04
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    Character
    Jondi Taru
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    双剣士 Lv 60
    Quote 引用元:Altera 投稿を閲覧
    Constructive criticism is absolutly fine, what I do have a problem with, is the people who either plainly says there is no content, leveling sucks, FATEs are boring, PVP is broken, Raids is a chore. I hardly ever see those people say exactly WHY they find X Content boring, broken, lacking etc as that just makes them sound to complain just for the sake of complaining

    If my customers or boss comes to me and says I sucked at my job, without telling me exactly what I did wrong, I will never be able to figure out what/how I should improve upon. Does what I say make any sense at all?

    Just saying Devs fix this game or I am quitting, will not improve the game whatsoever
    Leveling: it's a mandatory part of the game in order to reach end game content, but people do not care to level every single thing cause of what I said prior to this post.

    FATES: although a great way to level, gets dull and boring. Not to mention that it gives very little to offer people to actually learn their job.

    PVP: not generally a thing SE does and not much experience with it. In the end turns into a mess due lack of team work, in most cases.

    Raids: you already said it. Feels like a chore. Not to mention the frustration it brings when you try to clear and obtain gear. Unless you are part of those top 1% FCs, most ppl will have a decent amount of the raid gear, by the time they're replaced in the next patch.

    Not to mention roulette. Sign in, do roulette wait til reset and repeat. A lot of ppl do this daily and log off after, unless something else comes up in game that they might want to do, which isn't often.

    People have made suggestions in numerous posts, but you seem to only pay attention to the negative things and feed off that to insult them or say they annoy you or you hate those kinds of posts, which in the and only brings up more negativity.
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  7. #7
    Player
    Colorful's Avatar
    登録日
    2014/06/22
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    2,408
    Character
    Charlotte Elise
    World
    Kujata
    Main Class
    忍者 Lv 70
    Quote 引用元:Altera 投稿を閲覧
    Constructive criticism is absolutly fine, what I do have a problem with, is the people who either plainly says there is no content, leveling sucks, FATEs are boring, PVP is broken, Raids is a chore. I hardly ever see those people say exactly WHY they find X Content boring, broken, lacking etc as that just makes them sound to complain just for the sake of complaining
    Well if you want an answer as to why I find leveling is boring, it's because it's just mindless repetition. I'm doing content that isn't challenging while having a 4-5 ability rotation early on, every piece of leveling content is exactly that. FATEs provide no challenge and again, I'm clicking a few buttons over and over, either listening to that same music for hours on end or a podcast in the background. Sure, a shiny new level 60 class at the end might be worth it, but I just absolutely do not want to make tedious grind in order to achieve. Furthermore, I'm not actually progressing a class that I want to play. If they awarded some Esoterics while leveling I'd be all over it, but as it stands now it has no effect on my main.

    I could sit through the relic grind in which I could have leveled 3+ classes to 50 because my character was actually getting more powerful with each upgrade, unlike leveling other classes. I've always been a one class kinda person, even back in WoW I only had 2 max leveled characters and that due to my frustrations with Retribution Paladin's "rotation", I just hated having to keep up whatever that ability was every minute, but it turns out I landed on Ninja which has the exact same mechanic, but I don't dislike it as much for whatever reason (the extender with Heavensward certainly helps). Simply put, I don't want to invest 30+ hours of my free time on something I don't find enjoyable. Even doing Alwaysreap for the 40th time is more enjoyable to me than leveling because I'm clicking more than a few buttons. The leveling process is also not new content, the class is, but having to go through FATEs or dungeons is something I just don't enjoy and while FFXIV does have the whole armoury system, it's not very alt-class friendly due to lockouts and the lack of quests if you prefer leveling with those.

    How can they fix that? Don't know, I suggested adding Esoterics to the leveling process somehow but I have a feeling many would be against that. It does add variety to things other than Neverreap and Fractal though. I'm not really sure if I answered your question (I know it wasn't a question really), but there you go.
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  8. #8
    Player
    xXRaineXx's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/16
    Location
    うるうるだ
    投稿
    369
    Character
    Raine Serafine
    World
    Chocobo
    Main Class
    弓術士 Lv 70
    Finally someone who actually appreciates! People these days just complain about everything and nothing at the same time.

    ie

    Why do you keep making the same apple juice all the time? *changes to orange* OMG WTF, THIS ISN'T WHAT APPLE JUICE USE TO BE, YOU BETRAYED ME! *takes it away* -insert random comment here- *brings apple juice back* Apple juice again? Why do you ke-

    Well you get the point.

    EDIT;
    Change apple juice to Final Fantasy lol
    (1)

  9. #9
    Player
    Jonditaru's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/10/04
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    35
    Character
    Jondi Taru
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    双剣士 Lv 60
    Quote 引用元:xXRaineXx 投稿を閲覧
    Finally someone who actually appreciates! People these days just complain about everything and nothing at the same time.

    ie

    Why do you keep making the same apple juice all the time? *changes to orange* OMG WTF, THIS ISN'T WHAT APPLE JUICE USE TO BE, YOU BETRAYED ME! *takes it away* -insert random comment here- *brings apple juice back* Apple juice again? Why do you ke-

    Well you get the point.

    EDIT;
    Change apple juice to Final Fantasy lol
    Okay, so if coil is apple juice and alexander is orange juice, why does it taste the same?
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