fine sand no longer sold at npc after 1.19

[Fullmetal]

Here is a thoughtful analysis of the problem: It takes 6-24 shards + 6 fish to make 6 river sands using CUL. (Some synths require 1- 4 wind shards per river sand)
Then you need a goldsmith to turn the 6 sands into a fine sand, requiring additional crystals.
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So to make 1 single fine sand, you need 7 synths: 10-28 shards + 6 fish + 10 minutes of time to do all the prerequisite synthing.
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Then the fine sand will only produce 16 shards, potentially yielding a net profit of 0 or negative shards. Again, all to produce 1 single fine sand, of which, we need 63 to make a stack of shards. You will be lucky to even break even on this process after the crystal is broken down. You can decide if you think this makes sense.

It seems like all of these changes were not thought out fully. Given how large the list of changes is, this is not at all a surprise. But I suppose we will have to live with it - perhaps things will change in a few months when the next patch comes out. Hopefully you will have a large enough stockpile of fine sand to hold out.

[Aykatu]

Hey, as Public Enemy said, "Fight the Power!" Like the trpl post!!! <----Three marks! unspoken punz!

[StateAlchemist]

hmmm lets see... fish make sea sand, and sea sand makes fine sand...level culinarian?

[Fullmetal]

hmmm lets see... fish make sea sand, and sea sand makes fine sand...level culinarian?

hmmm lets see.....2 more steps + tons of mats + another class to level to make 1 single fine sand at a time which i will require hundreds of? the crafting time alone will be several hours just to make a stack of fine sand. don't be stupid - this change is a rip off and if you were smart you would be outraged too. the purpose of these crafting changes were supposed to SIMPLIFY the system and make it less dependent on other classes.

[Ceons]

hmmm lets see.....2 more steps + tons of mats + another class to level to make 1 single fine sand at a time which i will require hundreds of? the crafting time alone will be several hours just to make a stack of fine sand. don't be stupid - this change is a rip off and if you were smart you would be outraged too.

If your asking for help, then be nice, if your reporting it as something hopefully a dev will read great, there is no reason for insults still.. If your just trolling then wtf no reason to insult peoples intelligence for suggesting something.

Edit: Was it really necessary to start two threads about this?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-SHAFT-IN-1.19

[StateAlchemist]

Also, they know RMT bots are fishing to infinitely generate shards to sell in MW. Fine Sand disappearing from an NPC doesn't surprise me or anger me at all. It literally shuts down the crystal > shard end of the RMT shard bots. Now instead of farming fish that give 3x the crystals needed to synth it they will be forced to fish for ones that make the actual shards, or split their bots to farm sand.

[Celtodeno]

Also, they know RMT bots are fishing to infinitely generate shards to sell in MW. Fine Sand disappearing from an NPC doesn't surprise me or anger me at all. It literally shuts down the crystal > shard end of the RMT shard bots. Now instead of farming fish that give 3x the crystals needed to synth it they will be forced to fish for ones that make the actual shards, or split their bots to farm sand.

This thesis is unsound. The bots will keep botting fish and botting the sand. This change will only serve to increase the price of shards making botting them more lucrative. At the same time it will be much less likely to see regular player going through all of this work, especially when they can remember simply being able to buy it off an Npc for 36k a stack.

[Aykatu]

Triple posted actually...

[Darkrose]

I feel it was unfair that people bought tons and tons of Fine sand right before patch and now they have it easy and making tons of Gil off of Shard. For people who didn't they have it the hard way and there is no profit from making Fine Sand and turn it into Shard, not only that it required a ridiculous amount of time. If you gonna do this should have make Fine Sand a completely new recipe and call it something else and get rid of Fine Sand, it is only Fair!

[Technolust]

Edit: Was it really necessary to start two threads about this?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-SHAFT-IN-1.19

You mean 3

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...NPC-AFTER-1.19

And why the heck on all 3 posts Aykatu Yitaku is replying with the same crap?