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  1. #11
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    Players and SE both know patches and new content is expected to keep the subs, regardless of what the ToS says. It's a moot point to argue.

    3 months of sub would get you a patch worth of content and now it doesn't, it's not unreasonable to question why. And when the answer they give you is "we sent the devs on vacation", well... every worker goes on vacation at some point, but other companies don't need to hault production every time they do. It's a bs excuse. They're not irreplaceable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    Players and SE both know patches and new content is expected to keep the subs, regardless of what the ToS says. It's a moot point to argue.

    3 months of sub would get you a patch worth of content and now it doesn't, it's not unreasonable to question why. And when the answer they give you is "we sent the devs on vacation", well... every worker goes on vacation at some point, but other companies don't need to hault production every time they do. It's a bs excuse. They're not irreplaceable.
    So you'd rather have a B team deliver the next big patch? I wouldn't read the end of that here at the forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    I'm not quite sure what the point of this thread is, or why you couldn't have made this post here either.

    But yes, the developers are entitled to take a break unless Japan has some fucked up laws regarding vacation time.
    My team is allowed to take a break too but I dont let them all do it at the same time. We all have two months a year as PTO but somehow we always seem to work it out that there are enough people to complete the work while we take turns having time off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    So you'd rather have a B team deliver the next big patch? I wouldn't read the end of that here at the forums.
    So, you think there is an A team and a B team? Like they are competing and Yoshi is just like "Sorry guys, your stuff isn't making it in this week"?
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    Entitled is a very overused and inaccurately used word on the forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    So you'd rather have a B team deliver the next big patch? I wouldn't read the end of that here at the forums.
    Nothing the devs do is so unique or special that someone just as capable can't do. Especially since they've been using the same formula since 2.0 lol
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    The 'entitled' attitude stems from a gross misunderstanding. These players are right... about everyone being paying customers. That's about all they are right on. Our monthly subscriptions grants access to the game, but only within the scope of what's allowed by the ToS. The thing about the players that don't understand this is that they feel their monthly fee grants them some manner of control over their enjoyment of the game. It's not entirely false... when considering their characters within the game as presented to them. Within the bounds of the game rules, so to speak. Not unlike any other game. But this isn't the viewpoint that these malcontents have, they see this control as extending beyond the scope of their characters within the game. When this level of control fails they begin making demands, as if they're 'entitled' to this erroneous level of control because they are a paying customer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    When this level of control fails they begin making demands, as if they're 'entitled' to this erroneous level of control because they are a paying customer.
    So basically they're a typical American consumer?

    @OP I would like to add that whether intended or accidental, the FFXIV team has done a good job at making it seem like Yoshi (and by extension the devs) are your friends. Are they? No. But that idea that they're our buddies didn't pop up out of no where.
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    Last edited by Reinfeld; 09-20-2015 at 10:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    So you'd rather have a B team deliver the next big patch? I wouldn't read the end of that here at the forums.
    You realise that the ideas, contents and everything for 3.1 and most likely 3.2 are already finalised. It's only a matter of programming, graphics and testing that is left which can be done by your less than average worker.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Our monthly subscriptions grants access to the game, but only within the scope of what's allowed by the ToS.
    You're not saying anything new. Legally, yes, because SE is watching their back, but we all know that's more than it to it, including SE. They don't release patches, create a forum for suggestions, reports and compaints because they are kind. It's expected of them or the sub is gone: it's not in any contract, but it's the way things actually are.

    Wanting content to be released at the same speed as it's always been isn't even an outrageous demand. It's literaly asking for things to be the way they have always been... because so's the sub we pay.
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