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    Well... my FC used to be 90+ players and now is 50+ cuz a LOT left the game after HW.

    I loved HW Main Story and leveling our jobs was/is fun... but endgame is terrible both for casuals and hardcore on 3.0

    2 primals ex (1 just drop glamour basically) 3 month and we cant still DF these primals
    1 casual raid... i do 1 time each floor to get my drop and bye
    2 dungeons in expert.... REALLY repetitive to do for 5 months
    No ESO on high level roulette neither good exp for leveling
    AlexS drops are terrible looking/non original for the effort
    Hunts already irrelevant

    We used to have more stuff to do on 2.0... 3.1 need to be HUGE to save my server population
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    I do not understand why some people are angry towards those that want to unsub, untill the new patch gets released? Its simple, I pay for the content, so when I know that the next two months will have no new content, then I will unsub. Do the developers deserve a holiday, afcourse, like everyone human being does. But does this mean, we should pay subscription fee when nothing is being delivered? The answer for me and others is NO!

    Personaly, I am suprised that all the developers went on a holiday the same time and why dont they hire more people? Doesnt SE have enough money, I mean the expansion fee + subscription fee+ stuff bought from the cash store, should have brought a decent amount of money right?

    Maybe its me, but with the lack of staff members + server memory thingy, makes me think that either SE is saving money or FFXIV is not doing as well as we all thought.
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    people are down right pathetic...

    First SE is a company, not a person: a company shouldn't need a vacation. They should be able to allow staff vacations without the product stopping. When the entire project has to stop or have massive delays because of vacation, then that's just bad management, period.

    second: the time between patches has increased by 45%.

    Arr release 08/27/2013
    Patch 2.1 Notes 12/14/2013 15 weeks later
    Patch 2.2 Notes 03/26/2014 15 weeks later
    Patch 2.3 Notes 07/07/2014 16 weeks later
    Patch 2.4 Notes 10/27/2014 16 weeks later
    Patch 2.5 Notes 01/19/2015 12 weeks later

    Patch 3.0 Notes 06/19/2015 21 weeks later
    Patch 3.1 est 11/10/2015 20 weeks later

    Arr avg: 14.8 weeks between updates
    HW avg: 20.5 weeks later...

    Bottom line: If we are to believe that vacations are the reason for the delay, then by the math we will get 15 weeks worth of content for a 20 week delay. flat 25% loss on investment.

    Since we still pay the same per month, we are getting 25% less content for our money.
    and half the people want to pat them on the head and say good yoshi...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    half the people want to pat them on the head and say good yoshi...
    It's the same reason they blame Tanaka for 1.0, SE has a good PR department and they know how to play fans very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    It's the same reason they blame Tanaka for 1.0, SE has a good PR department and they know how to play fans very well.
    No I blame Tanaka because his game was horrible.
    I blame Yoshi-P because his department can't keep up the pace they set in 2.XX. He always said for subscription based games to survive today you have to pump out worthy content on a timely basis, which is true.
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 09-21-2015 at 01:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    No I blame Tanaka because his game was horrible.
    I blame Yoshi-P because his department can't keep up the pace they set in 2.XX.
    so a delayed expansion release because it wasn't ready on time because they wanted a high quality release and 1 major patch being delayed because they took a vacation says they can't keep up the pace, wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    so a delayed expansion release because it wasn't ready on time because they wanted a high quality release and 1 major patch being delayed because they took a vacation says they can't keep up the pace, wow.
    CT wasn't ready at launch and they delayed that specific piece of content. wow

    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Correct me if I missed anything.
    I think they said they are going to update Housing, Golden Saucer, and PvP. I also think they might have mentioned the new side story.
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 09-21-2015 at 01:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    No I blame Tanaka because his game was horrible.
    I blame Yoshi-P because his department can't keep up the pace they set in 2.XX.
    In both cases your blaming the wrong people. You should be looking up. I have no doubts that Yoshida has a passion for the game he is making, but I also know the sad reality that is making a game in the industry these days. Tanaka got speared because his game was pushed out the door before it was ready. Blame upper managment who wanted the game out the door before the next WoWspansion.

    Cash shop?
    Late content releases?
    Weekly lockouts?

    All decisions likely made by someone who isn't the lead developer of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
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    Sorry but I don't buy it. Mainly because it's taken 10 years for FFXIII Versus to finally come out the door. Seems rather stranger upper management would be so forceful on one department but so lax on another. I'll agree that cash shop was most likely the Upper Tier of business but lock out and content release slips are on the department lead. In fact Upper Management would be more gung-ho to push out unfinished work rather than wait. But on this I know we are going to need to agree to disagree on the subject and debating won't help.

    I think 3.1 should have been broken up into two smaller parts to fill the void and also give people the rest they needed. They could have launched what ever they had finished up to this point then release the rest in November.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    second: the time between patches has increased by 45%.
    taking an average between 6 major patches and putting it against a major update with 1 major patch does not add an average correctly, when HW has as many patches as Arr did it will make a difference. not to mention they stated they planned to get back on schedule right away so it will go back to the normal 3 month patch schedule.

    it doesn't properly add up because there isnt enough data

    Before any of you say I'm white knighting, I'm not. I know when people are making a much bigger deal out of something than they should be. Wait till they have a few major patches out before saying there is such an increase.
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    Last edited by Wildsprite; 09-21-2015 at 01:16 AM.

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