November? really?

[Warlyx]

did they sign a contract where they stated to deliver you a patch every 3 months? i dont think so, be grateful about anything which is coming in future or just unsub if you dont like it

[Tint]

I pay the sub on time, you' better deliver on time as well.

you are paying the sub for the servers and the people who keep them running. all content patches are in the game and now the expansion included. you don't need to pay monthly, you can take a break for a year and still get all content patches as long as you bought havensward.

[Wildsprite]

I get it, there are some jerks about it, however I can't stand how any criticism gets dismissed, and the "UNSUB" argument. Come on!

yes those people really need to stop too. sadly they won't as long as the community team allows it.

[Rakeesh]

You holding the WoW comparison against me is get another failed attempt of an inexperienced white knight.

I... what? Dude, if being logical and down to earth is 'white knighting' I don't know what to say. It's a patch that got delayed by a month or a week. Who cares. It's not that long a time frame.

Sincerely,

Square Enix supporter for the last 15 years.

Good for you...? O_o

I played my first Squaresoft game 20 years ago. Do I get a price for that now?

I don't need excuses, I need the content I provided the money to create at the rate it's always been. I pay the sub on time, you' better deliver on time as well. If your employees going on vacation delays your content by 2 months you are cheap and incompetent. It's not some unforseeable cause that you couldn't have dealt with in time. Figure it out like any othet company does. It's embarassing.

The other companies that give you patches every 6 months to a year because they treat their devs like something similar to humans?

We are talking about SE, not some new company that's just started and absolutely can't invest more time and money that it already is.

World of Warcraft. Biggest MMO on the planet. 10 years of experience. At their height of popularity with 10-12 million subscribers released patches every 5 months (at best) and 6-7 months more common.

The biggest problem with the community, people that make these statements.
It's still possible to like the game and be critical of it, you don't have to White Knight all the time.

I'm sorry. But what else can you say to people that threaten to leave the game because a patch got delayed by an unknown time frame. If you have to complain about something trivial such as this on the forums... I just don't know. There is a difference between legit criticism and attention seeking whining.

PSA: Complaining about a patch being slightly late is the latter.

How about actually focusing on what it offers? And if that is positive or negative.

[myahele]

And this is why I only sub by the month since 2.5 rather than going 3~6 months bundle route

I can understand the frustration for those who bought subs months in advance as soon as they got the expansion; they're effectively paying for a service that they're not using especially since unsubbing is really not an option for them for a few more months

[Senliten]

I'm sorry. But what else can you say to people that threaten to leave the game because a patch got delayed by an unknown time frame.

Back in MxO, we had a saying for people that did this.

"You'll be back."

And evidently, they were. Same can be said here to all those that are crying and saying they want to leave. They'll be back. Those that actually were going to leave, would more than likely not make a hissy fit and threaten, and instead opt to let money talk, and unsub.

[Seryl199]

I've just unsubbed from the game, the first time my sub has lapsed since starting in 2.0 beta. I won't pretend my opinion or sub is any more valuable than the next player's, but it was a disappointing decision to come to. I'm one of the "midcore endgame players" if you had to put a label on it, but really, I'm just a player. I dabbled in crafting, raiding, tried out each role in the trinity, participated in various side quests and seasonal events, and experienced much of the PVE the game has to offer. I've always just played the way I want to play since the start.

I'd never really become bored with the game, until 3.0 released. Were my expectations too high? Maybe they were, I expected a couple mix-ups from the 2.0 formula, maybe a fresh concept for the treadmilling conventions. Instead, I found all of 2.X's conventions layered on top of 3.0's new content. This had a cheapening effect on the content, the treadmill, and the rewards from the treadmill, leaving me with a powerful sensation of same-ness, despite the fact that I was playing and gearing a brand new class to the game.

It's hard to quantify exactly what turns me off. Having played since beta and following the schedule that endgame releases have had since then, it should be no surprise that there is a "new" form of alternate currency, a small selection of max level dungeons, a couple big primal battles, and a singular raid. As it turns out, this pool of content, designed for the "endgame" player, my bread and butter content, interested me so little that I'd stopped logging in day after day. I acknowledge the amount of content in 3.0, it's not insignificant, but the content that I actually wanted to invest myself in had so little draw that it made me hesitant to invest time in other areas of the game that already interested me less than endgame content.

I bear no ill will towards the game at all, or those that continue to enjoy it. However, with the content that I should ideally enjoy stretched thin, and stretched even thinner into next month, I'm finding I'll be better poised to enjoy the strong influx of new games around the holiday season. I don't enjoy having to take a break, I've invested myself into my character, the world, FC friends, but I enjoy logging in even less. I hope a future patch will address some of the issues I have with the game. It's really a shame that my playstyle conflicts with the current state of the game, but it is what it is. No amount of complaining or ranting will magically change that, the way I play the game simply doesn't satisfy me right now. I don't begrudge SE for taking a vacation from the game, I only hope they come back with fresh minds, new ideas, and make Eorzea a home worth coming back to.

[Aoxaviar]

Well, it will say after reading only a few pages of this thread...good community cross section with regards to the time and content.

I am a casual gamer, and a sub-par casual raider. I am a RW solo breadwinner, so the weekends is when I get my gameplay on in a serious sense of the term.

I personally like that it will be November mainly due to the fact that after getting the MSL taken care of, I jumped ship from dungeons/tome mining for gear to work on my FC airship, which is still not done since I didn't give crafting enough attention during the 2.x line and yes, really paying for it now with the Airship. Also, it is taking a long grind for me since my FC which had 22 active members starting 2.0 content lost most of them to the dps reflections of players during raid chat more than other games coming out. Due to this, I am the only active player left in my FC, but we do have a total of 4 players who are online during a sub month.

With that said, I can understand where those who are hardcore, or even have the time to play long periods of time everyday would be burned out on the current content. To you who fit this mold, I congratulate you on having everything to lvl 60, all the gears, and Alex Normal and Salvage cleared, and I would guess even have the FC workshop cleared of prototypes and creations. I will say I envy you and wish I had the time you do have to dedicate to what is a great game.

I would however, also ask that you do remember that we were told before launch what we would see for the 3.x roll out. No, we weren't told it would take 5 months, but we knew that there would be a slower than normal roll out of content for the 3.x series starting out. Please keep that in mind when you comment on the SE Dev Team taking a vacation and the 5 months.

So, since it isn't coming till November, I will probably save the airship for after 3.1 content and go grind for the tomes needed for the gear to move forward.

See ya'll in 3.1.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Back in MxO, we had a saying for people that did this.

"You'll be back."

And evidently, they were. Same can be said here to all those that are crying and saying they want to leave. They'll be back. Those that actually were going to leave, would more than likely not make a hissy fit and threaten, and instead opt to let money talk, and unsub.

Pretty much this. People talk the talk, but few walk the walk.

[Velhart]

It really is only an additional month. I am not worked up over it, especially since a lot of games are coming out in October (Dragon Quest Heroes, Legend of Legacy, Tales of Zesteria, AC: Syndicate).

The amount of content put into 3.0 was not the issue. Technically there is a lot to do. It is the quality of said content I come into question. Average players don't like Savage Coil and everything else is face roll easy to the point they are bored with it now. In turn also some have less motivation to do other content or level other jobs. Right now you either go very casual or hardcore, there is no middle ground.

You can put two or three things only in a game and make them last a long time if made well.

Also, yes developers do need a vacation. Just like you need one from your job once to twice a year. It is just one month over the intended schedule, and they did say first 10 days of November. If you are truly bored with the game, entertain yourself with another game. Unsubscribe if you want to not pay for just October.