November? really?

[Deviant1]

people are down right pathetic...

First SE is a company, not a person: a company shouldn't need a vacation. They should be able to allow staff vacations without the product stopping. When the entire project has to stop or have massive delays because of vacation, then that's just bad management, period.

second: the time between patches has increased by 45%.

Arr release 08/27/2013
Patch 2.1 Notes 12/14/2013 15 weeks later
Patch 2.2 Notes 03/26/2014 15 weeks later
Patch 2.3 Notes 07/07/2014 16 weeks later
Patch 2.4 Notes 10/27/2014 16 weeks later
Patch 2.5 Notes 01/19/2015 12 weeks later

Patch 3.0 Notes 06/19/2015 21 weeks later
Patch 3.1 est 11/10/2015 20 weeks later

Arr avg: 14.8 weeks between updates
HW avg: 20.5 weeks later...

Bottom line: If we are to believe that vacations are the reason for the delay, then by the math we will get 15 weeks worth of content for a 20 week delay. flat 25% loss on investment.

Since we still pay the same per month, we are getting 25% less content for our money.
and half the people want to pat them on the head and say good yoshi...

[Jynx]

half the people want to pat them on the head and say good yoshi...

It's the same reason they blame Tanaka for 1.0, SE has a good PR department and they know how to play fans very well.

[Dyvid]

It's the same reason they blame Tanaka for 1.0, SE has a good PR department and they know how to play fans very well.

No I blame Tanaka because his game was horrible.
I blame Yoshi-P because his department can't keep up the pace they set in 2.XX. He always said for subscription based games to survive today you have to pump out worthy content on a timely basis, which is true.

[Wildsprite]

No I blame Tanaka because his game was horrible.
I blame Yoshi-P because his department can't keep up the pace they set in 2.XX.

so a delayed expansion release because it wasn't ready on time because they wanted a high quality release and 1 major patch being delayed because they took a vacation says they can't keep up the pace, wow.

[Dyvid]

so a delayed expansion release because it wasn't ready on time because they wanted a high quality release and 1 major patch being delayed because they took a vacation says they can't keep up the pace, wow.

CT wasn't ready at launch and they delayed that specific piece of content. wow

Correct me if I missed anything.

I think they said they are going to update Housing, Golden Saucer, and PvP. I also think they might have mentioned the new side story.

[Colorful]

I think they said they are going to update Housing, Golden Saucer, and PvP. I also think they might have mentioned the new side story.

I added the new housing and sidequest, but I'm not going to update it with vanity items or minor tweaks at that would take me an eternity on both ends. As for the PvP, wasn't that for 3.2? The Wolves' Den 2.0 anyway, I didn't hear about anything else?

[Jynx]

No I blame Tanaka because his game was horrible.
I blame Yoshi-P because his department can't keep up the pace they set in 2.XX.

In both cases your blaming the wrong people. You should be looking up. I have no doubts that Yoshida has a passion for the game he is making, but I also know the sad reality that is making a game in the industry these days. Tanaka got speared because his game was pushed out the door before it was ready. Blame upper managment who wanted the game out the door before the next WoWspansion.

Cash shop?
Late content releases?
Weekly lockouts?

All decisions likely made by someone who isn't the lead developer of the game.

[Dyvid]

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Sorry but I don't buy it. Mainly because it's taken 10 years for FFXIII Versus to finally come out the door. Seems rather stranger upper management would be so forceful on one department but so lax on another. I'll agree that cash shop was most likely the Upper Tier of business but lock out and content release slips are on the department lead. In fact Upper Management would be more gung-ho to push out unfinished work rather than wait. But on this I know we are going to need to agree to disagree on the subject and debating won't help.

I think 3.1 should have been broken up into two smaller parts to fill the void and also give people the rest they needed. They could have launched what ever they had finished up to this point then release the rest in November.

[Wildsprite]

second: the time between patches has increased by 45%.

taking an average between 6 major patches and putting it against a major update with 1 major patch does not add an average correctly, when HW has as many patches as Arr did it will make a difference. not to mention they stated they planned to get back on schedule right away so it will go back to the normal 3 month patch schedule.

it doesn't properly add up because there isnt enough data

Before any of you say I'm white knighting, I'm not. I know when people are making a much bigger deal out of something than they should be. Wait till they have a few major patches out before saying there is such an increase.

[Colorful]

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It also seems like we're getting less content than what 2.1 brought to be honest.

2.1:
MSQ
2 New Beast Tribes
3 Dungeons
24 man raid
3 Extreme Primals
Ultima's bane Minstrel's Ballad
New Primal
The Entire PvP System
Hildibrand
Treasure Hunts
Free Company Housing
Aesthetician

3.1:
MSQ
1 New Beast Tribe
2 Dungeons
24 man Raid
1 Heavily Hinted At Extreme Trial - Singularity Reactor (likely an extreme of the new primal if we get one)
New Primal(?)
Airship Exploration (comparable to housing in scale, except we didn't have to give up a dungeon for that)
Lord of Verminion
Relics (which honestly should have been in 3.0...)
Ishgard Housing and Housing Tweaks
New Sidequest(?)


Correct me if I missed anything.