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    Will we lose subscriptions over this? Likely. However I feel that the more common case will be people lapsing out to play other games while they wait, and returning in November, which is both expected and acceptable to the developers. They stated multiple times that they expect and anticipate some groups to fall off in the downtime between patches.

    Those that find reasons to stay rack up their loyalty rewards faster than those who lapse in and out. Honestly, I was taking a break until I heard this, now I want to catch up other jobs so I can be more flexible for Exploratory Missions.

    Some people got more reasons to stay, some people got more reasons to leave. *shurg* I'm ok with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
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    As I mentioned earlier, failure to build up any hype is a contributor to this. Me and my group is feeling a bit burn out from Savage due to the jump from A2s to A3s in difficulty and unforgiving mechanics (especially when it's relative to player-to-player latency). Midcore players have nothing engaging into get into, and there's very few meaningful content outside of doing things for the sake of doing things if they don't interest you (such as leveling classes you hate/dislike playing).

    Crafters are stuck in a rut in regards to who they can provide to, PvP is stuck with Seal Rock which comes with it's own problem, and we have hardly any build up for what's to come in 3.1 that isn't anything new from what we heard from the previews a month back. The Videos they showed in the liveletter was under development ,but it really didn't do much to sell me interest in 3.1 when I take it for face value; Void Ark looks uninteresting, Exploratory mission looks like an overglorified Sea of clouds because it only showed exploring the area, and the void ark set looks like a remodel of the law gear, and they talk a little bit about the new goldsaucer attraction which we had already known of since last time.

    If they were going to take this long to release content at a point where players are already losing interest, you don't want them to lose even more interest even with lack-luster previews. There was no mention of primals or details on relics, or really anything that resembles giving us something to "please look forward" for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    As I mentioned earlier, failure to build up any hype is a contributor to this. There was no mention of primals or details on relics, or really anything that resembles giving us something to "please look forward" for.
    You can expect a trailer like with every other content patch for the sake of building up hype. These live letters are sneak previews of bits of in-development content, not a full patch preview. Only a couple thousand people watch these live letters, as opposed to the hundreds of thousands that watch the official patch previews they do. We KNOW new story quests, relics, Vanu Vanu dailies and other stuff are coming, all of which are likely to be teased in an official 3.1 trailer.

    I mean look at the alternative: They could have revealed absolutely nothing until the official trailer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adn View Post
    You can expect a trailer like with every other content patch for the sake of building up hype. These live letters are sneak previews of bits of in-development content, not a full patch preview. Only a couple thousand people watch these live letters, as opposed to the hundreds of thousands that watch the official patch previews they do. We KNOW new story quests, relics, Vanu Vanu dailies and other stuff are coming, all of which are likely to be teased in an official 3.1 trailer.

    I mean look at the alternative: They could have revealed absolutely nothing until the official trailer.
    At this point, they effectively have revealed nothing new. Last time we got a preview on LoV, exploratory airships, void ark and a glance look at some weapons, and the new dungeons. Liveletter they...previewed LoV, exploratory airships and void ark, only they added developmental footage which showed nothing out of the ordinary.

    No extra details on relic, primal, or any other changes they were planning to add in. Sure they onyl had one hour, but that made it even more important to use their time wisely instead of telling us things we already know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    At this point, they effectively have revealed nothing new. Last time we got a preview on LoV, exploratory airships, void ark and a glance look at some weapons, and the new dungeons. Liveletter they...previewed LoV, exploratory airships and void ark, only they added developmental footage which showed nothing out of the ordinary.
    I'd imagine the idea is they don't want to show us everything just yet, as it's still a month and a half away, there's no point in getting the hype machine in full swing just yet. The Hiroshima FATE is likely where we will see the trailer and other new stuff, and it's not exactly like thats too far away from now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy2nd View Post
    I'd imagine the idea is they don't want to show us everything just yet, as it's still a month and a half away, there's no point in getting the hype machine in full swing just yet. The Hiroshima FATE is likely where we will see the trailer and other new stuff, and it's not exactly like thats too far away from now.
    Well it depends on the circumstances. People are already feeling the effects of burn out since we're in a content desert out of release, now would've been a better time than ever to keep players interested or start preparing for what 3.1 gives (such as motivation to level my side classes, getting X done, etc etc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    At this point, they effectively have revealed nothing new.
    This is misinformation, due to being overly general. We have been given a lot of new information that we did not have before. They are related to topics we've been talking about for a long time, but we have been given new, important information that effectively changes the outlook on the content previously revealed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    This is misinformation, due to being overly general. We have been given a lot of new information that we did not have before. They are related to topics we've been talking about for a long time, but we have been given new, important information that effectively changes the outlook on the content previously revealed.
    I'm pretty sure it was mentioned a long while back just what sort of things exploratory voyages would go over, such as using your FC ship, entering as a full alliance, it not being instanced, and hunting notorious monsters. Void Ark they'd go over drop rules, party compositions, all of which are givens since it's a Ct-styled content. From my end, it's retelling us what we already know because I already expected these sort of things based on the previous preview they have already given us or stray developer comments in the forums.
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