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    Quote Originally Posted by rainichan View Post
    Here, let me put this in easier terms: everyone is thinking of an American (or maybe even a UK) work week where it's 40 hours, 5 days a week, 8 hours a day.
    Culture in this case has nothing to do with it. People here in the US and the rest of the west can regularly do 60-70 + or more hour work weeks when its crunch time on a video game without over time. Dev studio crunch times no know culture. This kind of thing happens all the time see: EA spouse <- and thats from 2004
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cidolfas86 View Post
    Culture in this case has nothing to do with it.
    It does when it's seen as a disrespectful, dick move to take vacation in the middle of crunch time because you're feeling overwhelmed. I've pulled my share of 10-12 hours days when things needed to get done at work, but they're likely going above and beyond pulling 100 hours overtime in a month or less with no breaks save for their national one-day holidays is insanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainichan View Post
    It does when it's seen as a disrespectful, dick move to take vacation in the middle of crunch time because you're feeling overwhelmed.
    The same kinds of things your describing happen in the west as well due in no small part to mismanagement and lack of any solid unions in the industry. The point is that Japan isn't unique in this. "Development hell" isn't unique to Japan.
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    ...it's not mismanagement on their part, though. It is literally a cultural difference in "you and your team have worked hard, have 4-5 days off because you've earned it by not taking a day off that isn't a holiday in almost two years." That is how they're raised. That is how they're taught. If your peer is working this hard, you should strive to be working just as hard as they are, if not harder. If you're not, then you're disgracing your peers and who you work for. You want a mental health day? You don't really need it, do you? No one else does, and if you take that day off you're going to push your work off on Tanaka for the day and you know he's already swamped.

    Yeah, that happens in the west. I can say with some certainty that part of those teams take a break after long dev hours, and then the other half will once the others are back. But that's not how the Japanese do. The patch being delayed some is not the end of the world. Unsub and play something else until patch drops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cidolfas86 View Post
    The same kinds of things your describing happen in the west as well due in no small part to mismanagement and lack of any solid unions in the industry. The point is that Japan isn't unique in this. "Development hell" isn't unique to Japan.
    Regardless of this they are a team and as such they take vacations at the same time. This is a thing in Japan, your opinion won't change that nomatter how hard you try. I wholeheartedly believe they were entitled to the one that caused this delay.

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    I don't want to compare to anything. I'm just disappointed the developers left us with nothing to do for 5 months.
    If you have nothing to do because you rushed through content or because you don't want to do some of the content available that isn't the fault of the devs.
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    Last edited by Wildsprite; 09-19-2015 at 07:13 PM.