November? really?

[Deathscythe343]

Given the amount of threads lately have been about how boring the game currently is, the game will probably see a fair number of people unsubbing until then.

Though, I would have to think that SE has at least seen the amount of threads and comments about such things and is, at least, going to make an attempt at trying to keep some people from doing that. They could easily get a lot of people to stick around for at least another month if they removed the loot lockout on Alex normal.

[Aoxaviar]

Well, it will say after reading only a few pages of this thread...good community cross section with regards to the time and content.

I am a casual gamer, and a sub-par casual raider. I am a RW solo breadwinner, so the weekends is when I get my gameplay on in a serious sense of the term.

I personally like that it will be November mainly due to the fact that after getting the MSL taken care of, I jumped ship from dungeons/tome mining for gear to work on my FC airship, which is still not done since I didn't give crafting enough attention during the 2.x line and yes, really paying for it now with the Airship. Also, it is taking a long grind for me since my FC which had 22 active members starting 2.0 content lost most of them to the dps reflections of players during raid chat more than other games coming out. Due to this, I am the only active player left in my FC, but we do have a total of 4 players who are online during a sub month.

With that said, I can understand where those who are hardcore, or even have the time to play long periods of time everyday would be burned out on the current content. To you who fit this mold, I congratulate you on having everything to lvl 60, all the gears, and Alex Normal and Salvage cleared, and I would guess even have the FC workshop cleared of prototypes and creations. I will say I envy you and wish I had the time you do have to dedicate to what is a great game.

I would however, also ask that you do remember that we were told before launch what we would see for the 3.x roll out. No, we weren't told it would take 5 months, but we knew that there would be a slower than normal roll out of content for the 3.x series starting out. Please keep that in mind when you comment on the SE Dev Team taking a vacation and the 5 months.

So, since it isn't coming till November, I will probably save the airship for after 3.1 content and go grind for the tomes needed for the gear to move forward.

See ya'll in 3.1.

[Loony_BoB]

*shakes his head at people who say 3.0 didn't offer much*

Three new jobs, increase level cap with new skills included (and crafts to cover the increased level cap), unsynced party (ie solo dungeoning), loads of new dungeons, new primals, flying, new zones, new city, new idle town, new gear, new hunts, new quests, new gathering systems, FC crafting, airships... am I missing more? Probably.

If anything, we're very spoiled with how much we get in the patches (how many games would give you something like Gold Saucer in a patch?), some of them are near-expansion-quality in themselves. I have no issues with lack of content and I play a lot. I was told by someone the other day about how in WoW you're lucky to get a patch of FFXIV quality ever. Everything is expac except bug fixes and balancing, so I'm told.

If I played any other game as much as I play FFXIV, I'd probably be bored.

[TruebladeNuke]

*shakes his head at people who say 3.0 didn't offer much*

Three new jobs, increase level cap with new skills included (and crafts to cover the increased level cap), unsynced party (ie solo dungeoning), loads of new dungeons, new primals, flying, new zones, new city, new idle town, new gear, new hunts, new quests, new gathering systems, FC crafting, airships... am I missing more? Probably.

If anything, we're very spoiled with how much we get in the patches (how many games would give you something like Gold Saucer in a patch?), some of them are near-expansion-quality in themselves. I have no issues with lack of content and I play a lot.

Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks this way. The 3 new jobs in particular have kept me quite busy, but I'm now finally getting close to having ALL of my jobs at 60. Yes, I play as all the roles. I like them all. And this isn't even getting into all the other new things the expansion brought. Personally, I think too many people are only focused on the endgame stuff. (Which is somewhat lacking, I'll admit that)

And by the lords, the way some of the people are acting in here when they found out the developers took a break. They're freaking human too guys! Geeze, I already knew gaming communities were selfish, but yeesh.

EDIT: My one and only concern about Patch 3.1 is that it'll be competing with other major release titles around that time. Fallout 4 in particular jumps to my head, but I've got my eyes on Star Wars Battlefront and the new Tales of game too.

[Preypacer]

*shakes his head at people who say 3.0 didn't offer much*

Three new jobs, increase level cap with new skills included (and crafts to cover the increased level cap), unsynced party (ie solo dungeoning), loads of new dungeons, new primals, flying, new zones, new city, new idle town, new gear, new hunts, new quests, new gathering systems, FC crafting, airships... am I missing more? Probably.

If anything, we're very spoiled with how much we get in the patches (how many games would give you something like Gold Saucer in a patch?), some of them are near-expansion-quality in themselves. I have no issues with lack of content and I play a lot. I was told by someone the other day about how in WoW you're lucky to get a patch of FFXIV quality ever. Everything is expac except bug fixes and balancing, so I'm told.

If I played any other game as much as I play FFXIV, I'd probably be bored.

You're exactly right. HW did release a lot of stuff. Tons of stuff. Enough to keep people busy for a while, assuming they're actually engaging in it.

The thing is, there are people for whom much of what you listed there is of absolutely no interest. They only care about one or two things - usually hitting level cap as quickly as possible, and then clearing dungeons and getting better loot, as quickly as possible. Anything that doesn't contribute to those two things is considered "not worth it" to them, and so they end up not doing much of the content released. Anything they're required to do, they race through as fast as possible (these are the people who are freaking out when a dungeon isn't going quickly enough for them, etc.)

So, when they inevitably and understandably hit the wall of "nothing else (they feel is worthwhile) to do", you end up with threads/posts like this.

Here's the thing, and here's why I don't worry much about the doom and gloom of these posts. Those people exist in every MMO. They will never be satisfied, in any MMO. No MMO could ever be made that could satisfy them - unless it was nothing but running dungeons and getting gear, with nothing else. Apart from that, nothing will ever be enough for them. Ever. When 100% of someone's focus is on maybe 20-30% of the content offered, how can it be?

The thing is, their posts represent only themselves, and those who play with the same "go go go" mentality as them.

Some players are simply their own worst enemies... and never realize it.

For other players, who aren't in a hurry, who don't feel the need to "go go go", whom mix it up, and whose interests lie in closer to 70-80% of the content, they've plenty to do, and you're not going to see them complaining any time soon, if ever.

[Asmodai]

If anything, we're very spoiled with how much we get in the patches (how many games would give you something like Gold Saucer in a patch?), some of them are near-expansion-quality in themselves. I have no issues with lack of content and I play a lot. I was told by someone the other day about how in WoW you're lucky to get a patch of FFXIV quality ever. Everything is expac except bug fixes and balancing, so I'm told..

Thats because wow had the content in from the start. In ffxiv im currently farming the same two instances for eso. Thats boring, then when the patch hits what are they going to do put in two more reskinned dungeons?

[Dererk]

*shakes his head at people who say 3.0 didn't offer much*

Three new jobs, increase level cap with new skills included (and crafts to cover the increased level cap), unsynced party (ie solo dungeoning), loads of new dungeons, new primals, flying, new zones, new city, new idle town, new gear, new hunts, new quests, new gathering systems, FC crafting, airships... am I missing more? Probably.

1. Not every one bothers leveling more than 2,3 jobs.

2. Not every one bothers with crafting or gathering. (I for one find them boring.)

3. Hunts? (hysterically laughs) no hunts are one of the worse open world things they ever put into this game.

4. Yes they gave us new zones but they given us nothing to do in them at level 60 don't bother saying hunts just look at number 3 again.

5. Every one hates Bismarck. They took steps of fate which a lot of people do not like and still leave if they get it for daily's. And turns the thing into a Big dps check. Yes Ravana is interesting but with eso weapons no one farms him now.

6. They jumped 50 item levels once you get to 60 in gear.


I will add that one of the big reasons for lack of end game at 60 is because they raised the level cap to 60. If it had stayed at 50 we could have gotten more end game stuff after the Heavensward story. And we could have maybe even goten horizontal gear progression they could have gone a new way in getting stronger. But no new level cap and even higher item level gear.

[Hyrist]

1. Not every one bothers leveling more than 2,3 jobs.

2. Not every one bothers with crafting or gathering. (for one find them boring.)

3. Hunts? (hysterically laughs) no hunts are one of the worse open world things they ever put into this game.

4. Yes they gave us new zones but they given us nothing to do in them at level 60 don't bother saying hunts just look at number 3 again.

1. Your leveling process from 50-60 on your first character did not exist then?

2. The game is not designe to appeal to everyone the same way. Just because you ignore the content, does not quanitfy the exclusion of it. This is something to do, it does not appeal to you. You are, in part, responsible for your own boredom.

3. Hunts expand more than just the Zerg variety. Treasure Hunts could also be in the variety which do include the following.

4. This is different how from level 50? Open zones were mostly leveling and gathering grounds through the entirety of 2.0. Hunts, which you so much dislike, wasn't even planned content before the feedback of wanting more open world stuff to do at 50. That said, those who seek gear for glamours still, like at 50, have the ability to go hunting for specific FATEs or FATE chains that can provide them with unique gear. (Not unlike Treasure Hunts, in that regard.)

No where, in any of Heavensward's advertising, was there a promise of a complete and revamped endgame. In fact, Alexander was pretty much the only mention made to be coming in the 3.0x series. That does not disqualify the content released, which was, as promised, enough to fill a classic single player RPG. SE is not responsible for inflated expectation.

[Kaurie]

1. Your leveling process from 50-60 on your first character did not exist then?

2. The game is not designe to appeal to everyone the same way. Just because you ignore the content, does not quanitfy the exclusion of it. This is something to do, it does not appeal to you. You are, in part, responsible for your own boredom.

3. Hunts expand more than just the Zerg variety. Treasure Hunts could also be in the variety which do include the following.

4. This is different how from level 50? Open zones were mostly leveling and gathering grounds through the entirety of 2.0. Hunts, which you so much dislike, wasn't even planned content before the feedback of wanting more open world stuff to do at 50. That said, those who seek gear for glamours still, like at 50, have the ability to go hunting for specific FATEs or FATE chains that can provide them with unique gear. (Not unlike Treasure Hunts, in that regard.)

No where, in any of Heavensward's advertising, was there a promise of a complete and revamped endgame. In fact, Alexander was pretty much the only mention made to be coming in the 3.0x series. That does not disqualify the content released, which was, as promised, enough to fill a classic single player RPG. SE is not responsible for inflated expectation.

The issue is that the expansion effectively removed more content than it added.

This is for another thread though.

also

SE is not responsible for inflated expectation.

lol you sound like their lawyer. Also, yes they are.

[Daralii]

The issue is that the expansion effectively removed more content than it added.

This is for another thread though.

C'mon, you can't say something like that and not elaborate. :v