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    Vinestra's Avatar
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    Vine Rainyday
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    5 months, man. 5 months break. 5 months of no content. And then we'll get 2 dungeons which are straight lines with 3 boring bosses and a bunch of boring trash in between.
    People really are going to excuse this in the game they are playing and are paying for?
    I understand there are no self-respecting customers among fanboys, but c'mon, even YOU should understand 5 months is a bit too long.
    Clearly someone's never played other mmos. lets look at WoW's 5.4 lasted over a year, their average patch cycle is 6 months upwards. FFxiv has some of the quickest patch cycles to.
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinestra View Post
    Clearly someone's never played other mmos. lets look at WoW's 5.4 lasted over a year, their average patch cycle is 6 months upwards. FFxiv has some of the quickest patch cycles to.
    The thing is, excluding Warlords and Cata the patches had more content than FFXIV for the most part. It's not quite fair to compare 6 months for 10+ bosses to 4-5 months for 4. WoW has gone down the shitter though, so I don't suppose that matters. Yoshida did make mention of increasing the patch delay to make larger patches (similar to WoW), but believed it wasn't the way to go due to people unsubscribing, and that he hasn't built loyalty or whatever to keep people subscribed for that long without new content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinestra View Post
    Clearly someone's never played other mmos. lets look at WoW's 5.4 lasted over a year, their average patch cycle is 6 months upwards. FFxiv has some of the quickest patch cycles to.
    WoW also always has 8-9 expert dungeons to run, not just two. FFXIV patches are much smaller in comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    I wonder how profitable are such huge breaks between patches. It's obviously the game is going to lose a huge number of subscribers. Vacation or not, 5 months is a long time period when there's so little endgame content.
    With the 5 month break and how the last few months more and more people are realizing how 3.0 is just 2.0, but less. I can see the population taking a huge hit if 3.1 isn't amazing.
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    With the 5 month break and how the last few months more and more people are realizing how 3.0 is just 2.0, but less. I can see the population taking a huge hit if 3.1 isn't amazing.
    And from what we know so far... it's not that amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    And from what we know so far... it's not that amazing.
    Opinions. I think it looks awesome. I'm here for the fun (ie, I do Coil unsynced with friends instead of Alex) and 3.1 looks like loads of fun.
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loony_BoB View Post
    Opinions. I think it looks awesome. I'm here for the fun (ie, I do Coil unsynced with friends instead of Alex) and 3.1 looks like loads of fun.
    Same, I'm SUPER hyped for the explorations, a content I can do with my 2 friends that play too and with the Lord of Verminion minigame. AND a way to get top level equips that doesn't require me to raid, yay!!

    I'm even thinking about going to Limsa to shout YOSHIDAAAAAAAAAAA because the hype airship sailed here.
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    Taisai Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loony_BoB View Post
    *shakes his head at people who say 3.0 didn't offer much*
    For endgame, it doesn't.

    Repeat Neverreap/Fractal, or Seal Rock, ad nauseum for your tomestones, and clear Alexander each weak. Seal Rock is the only thing new here, if we're comparing to A Realm Reborn, but in a community that, for the most part, is purely PvE, that doesn't mean a lot... Heavensward is basically A Realm Reborn, minus the Relics, at this point... Although I'd honestly say it's worse than A Realm Reborn, because I find Alexander to be pretty lackluster, but that's what I get for going in hopeful, only to be met with nothing more than a pure DPS check... High Voltage wasn't much, but at least it was something, Coil was leagues ahead of Alexander off that alone IMO, never mind the story as well...

    Quote Originally Posted by Loony_BoB View Post
    Opinions. I think it looks awesome. I'm here for the fun (ie, I do Coil unsynced with friends instead of Alex) and 3.1 looks like loads of fun.
    See, I agree with this, but... I don't think many people purchased Heavensward so they could do 2.x content, they purchased it for the new content... Had they expanded upon the old content though, by lets say adding a special Treasure Map to old loot tables, which grants access to a Guildhest-style Lv60 event (think BCNM style content from XI) for some relevant rewards, then we'd be talking... That would be something new, and it would be content that seems twice as filling, because you'd first have to beat Ifrit (Extreme) for an Inferno Map, before doing a special Lv60 instance against Amalj'aa for reasons.

    Instead... Instead we just have Fractal and Neverreap... Going through old content duo/trio is fun and all, but it's not something I'm going to log on all week to do... Sky-Islands seem like the new exciting content, but that just makes the delay for 3.1 all the more painful... I got my fill of Amdapor Keep and Coil in the early weeks of 2.0, and I mean this in every sense, but that's essentially all Heavensward is offering right now... Well, were it not for Seal Rock, but I'm really not going to kid myself and pretend that's relevant for 90% of the playerbase. For most, Heavensward is either redoing Amdapor/Coil at Lv60, or redoing Amdapor/Coil in Neverreap/Alexander.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 09-19-2015 at 02:42 PM.

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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    And from what we know so far... it's not that amazing.
    Speak for yourself. I'm looking forward to it immensely.
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    Darkobra Kage
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    I wonder how profitable are such huge breaks between patches. It's obviously the game is going to lose a huge number of subscribers. Vacation or not, 5 months is a long time period when there's so little endgame content.
    It's always the unemployed that think they know how to run a business.
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