November? really?

[Kaurie]

I'll give you one right now, nowhere did they ever guarantee a 3 month schedule. it is not in the terms of service and they only said their plan was to try to keep it that way. it was NOT promised.

False expectations, not promises. Yoshi himself said that they would stick to a 3 month cycle in interviews. Yes, it's not in the ToS, you are right there.

It's fine if you want to keep supporting this, but to me it's not a very good business practice.

[Wildsprite]

False expectations, not promises. Yoshi himself said that they would stick to a 3 month cycle in interviews. Yes, it's not in the ToS, you are right there.

It's fine if you want to keep supporting this, but to me it's not a very good business practice.

he said time and time again their plan was to try to stick to that schedule.

[Kaurie]

he said time and time again their plan was to try to stick to that schedule.

I am confused. Are you agreeing with me now?

[Colorful]

I'll give you one right now. Nowhere did they ever guarantee a 3 month schedule. It is not in the terms of service. They only said their plan was to try to keep it that way. It was never promised. The idea that some of you have that they did such a promise shows how much you were not paying attention to everything they said.

Actually Yoshida did say in an interview that they were planning a yearly, or almost year expansion release schedule, while releasing 5 major patches too. While it's not offical, anyone who read that would expect patches to be released at the same, or a faster pace than usual.


Source.

[Rakeesh]

Just going to give an analogy about false expectations.

Lets see if I can come up with something actually fitting to the situation.

You have Cable TV. You're paying monthly for your TV channels. In the month of October nothing runs that interests you (lets say new movies) because cinematic movie release schedule was wonky this year.

Are you going to go complain to your Pay-TV company that nothing runs that interests you and you definitely want Mad Max Fury Road now instead of in November?

[Kaurie]

Lets see if I can come up with something actually fitting to the situation.

You have Cable TV. You're paying monthly for your TV channels. In the month of October nothing runs that interests you (lets say new movies) because cinematic movie release schedule was wonky this year.

Are you going to go complain to your Pay-TV company that nothing runs that interests you and you definitely want Mad Max Fury Road now instead of in November?

This was almost true, but it is more like the cable company (somehow having power of this) says "All of these shows are launching in October." .. "OK, now that you've paid for October, we're actually just kidding and it will be in November. Peace."

[Rakeesh]

This was almost true, but it is more like the cable company (somehow having power of this) says "All of these shows are launching in October." .. "OK, now that you've paid for October, we're actually just kidding and it will be in November. Peace."

Only that Square never said that 3.1 will be released in October. "First 10 days of November" is the first thing close to a release date we have heard by now. Everything else was just speculation by the player base. So it's more like "Oh... last year they released the shows in October they probably will do the same this year too." "This year the shows will come out November because of difficulties on the set." "Let us riot in the streets go get the pitchforks! We were promised October!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[Kaurie]

Only that Square never said that 3.1 will be released in October. "First 10 days of November" is the first thing close to a release date we have heard by now. Everything else was just speculation by the player base. So it's more like "Oh... last year they released the shows in October they probably will do the same this year too." "This year the shows will come out November because of difficulties on the set." "Let us riot in the streets go get the pitchforks! We were promised October!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

My assumption is not based off last year. It's based off an interview in February when Yoshi said "We will be following the 3 month patch cycle in Heavensward from 3.0 to 3.5".

Except... There were no difficulties, they went on vacation. It was a planned delay that they didn't tell us until 3 days prior to the expected release based on their own interviews.

If you want to get precise, it's more like
Cable company: We will be releasing a new show every 3 months
September, 3 months later hits, October bill paid for.
Cable company: Oh lol we went on vacation, so you can expect the new show in November instead.

More like you pay for October, they later say they ran into issues(the vacation was only one factor. According to Yoshida, they also had to fix something with the workflow) and it'll be delayed. You have full access to the rest of the catalog, but it won't be updated until November. You ask for a refund, they don't give you one because they legally don't have to due to what was stated in ToS.

Never asked for a refund. As for issues, see above. Don't care about legal stuff lol. No idea how many times I have to repeat myself.
TBH this thread has been more entertaining than the game. Nice that it's free.

[Daralii]

This was almost true, but it is more like the cable company (somehow having power of this) says "All of these shows are launching in October." .. "OK, now that you've paid for October, we're actually just kidding and it will be in November. Peace."

More like you pay for October, they later say they ran into issues(the vacation was only one factor. According to Yoshida, they also had to fix something with the workflow) and it'll be delayed. You have full access to the rest of the catalog, but it won't be updated until November. You ask for a refund, they don't give you one because they legally don't have to due to what was stated in ToS.

[Astral145]

Just going to give an analogy about false expectations.

then 4 months down the road you prepay for your 5th month. Suddenly, a week later the cell phone company broadcasts "Hey, we're all going on vacation, so for the next 2 months you get 500 MB instead of 1 GB. No discounts. Cheers". Should you be happy with this? Should you be OK with this? No. You were specifically told before payment what to expect, and then you paid. Then you got something else.

1st off a cell phone runs off an automated service and a lot of times companies like Verizon and At&T contract out to 3rd parties to help with service calls.
2nd Do ever feel like you need PTO (Personal Time OFF) from work? Ever feel run down and stressed to the point of bursting at the seems? These devs put in a lot of OT w/out getting OT pay meaning they are on salary. They can easily work 60 - 80 hour work weeks and up to 15 days straight or more w/out a day off. So chillax its not like you cant play the game.

Level up some jobs and enjoy what you have. Personally I like this long break from new updates I can get all my battle jobs to 60 w/out feeling rushed. So far I got 7 jobs at 60 (8 if include sch/smn). Again chillax and enjoy the game.