November? really?

[Valoiz]

Well... my FC used to be 90+ players and now is 50+ cuz a LOT left the game after HW.

I loved HW Main Story and leveling our jobs was/is fun... but endgame is terrible both for casuals and hardcore on 3.0

2 primals ex (1 just drop glamour basically) 3 month and we cant still DF these primals
1 casual raid... i do 1 time each floor to get my drop and bye
2 dungeons in expert.... REALLY repetitive to do for 5 months
No ESO on high level roulette neither good exp for leveling
AlexS drops are terrible looking/non original for the effort
Hunts already irrelevant

We used to have more stuff to do on 2.0... 3.1 need to be HUGE to save my server population

[Laerune]

I do not understand why some people are angry towards those that want to unsub, untill the new patch gets released? Its simple, I pay for the content, so when I know that the next two months will have no new content, then I will unsub. Do the developers deserve a holiday, afcourse, like everyone human being does. But does this mean, we should pay subscription fee when nothing is being delivered? The answer for me and others is NO!

Personaly, I am suprised that all the developers went on a holiday the same time and why dont they hire more people? Doesnt SE have enough money, I mean the expansion fee + subscription fee+ stuff bought from the cash store, should have brought a decent amount of money right?

Maybe its me, but with the lack of staff members + server memory thingy, makes me think that either SE is saving money or FFXIV is not doing as well as we all thought.

[Deviant1]

people are down right pathetic...

First SE is a company, not a person: a company shouldn't need a vacation. They should be able to allow staff vacations without the product stopping. When the entire project has to stop or have massive delays because of vacation, then that's just bad management, period.

second: the time between patches has increased by 45%.

Arr release 08/27/2013
Patch 2.1 Notes 12/14/2013 15 weeks later
Patch 2.2 Notes 03/26/2014 15 weeks later
Patch 2.3 Notes 07/07/2014 16 weeks later
Patch 2.4 Notes 10/27/2014 16 weeks later
Patch 2.5 Notes 01/19/2015 12 weeks later

Patch 3.0 Notes 06/19/2015 21 weeks later
Patch 3.1 est 11/10/2015 20 weeks later

Arr avg: 14.8 weeks between updates
HW avg: 20.5 weeks later...

Bottom line: If we are to believe that vacations are the reason for the delay, then by the math we will get 15 weeks worth of content for a 20 week delay. flat 25% loss on investment.

Since we still pay the same per month, we are getting 25% less content for our money.
and half the people want to pat them on the head and say good yoshi...

[Jynx]

half the people want to pat them on the head and say good yoshi...

It's the same reason they blame Tanaka for 1.0, SE has a good PR department and they know how to play fans very well.

[Wildsprite]

second: the time between patches has increased by 45%.

taking an average between 6 major patches and putting it against a major update with 1 major patch does not add an average correctly, when HW has as many patches as Arr did it will make a difference. not to mention they stated they planned to get back on schedule right away so it will go back to the normal 3 month patch schedule.

it doesn't properly add up because there isnt enough data

Before any of you say I'm white knighting, I'm not. I know when people are making a much bigger deal out of something than they should be. Wait till they have a few major patches out before saying there is such an increase.

[Dyvid]

It's the same reason they blame Tanaka for 1.0, SE has a good PR department and they know how to play fans very well.

No I blame Tanaka because his game was horrible.
I blame Yoshi-P because his department can't keep up the pace they set in 2.XX. He always said for subscription based games to survive today you have to pump out worthy content on a timely basis, which is true.

[Wildsprite]

No I blame Tanaka because his game was horrible.
I blame Yoshi-P because his department can't keep up the pace they set in 2.XX.

so a delayed expansion release because it wasn't ready on time because they wanted a high quality release and 1 major patch being delayed because they took a vacation says they can't keep up the pace, wow.

[Colorful]

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It also seems like we're getting less content than what 2.1 brought to be honest.

2.1:
MSQ
2 New Beast Tribes
3 Dungeons
24 man raid
3 Extreme Primals
Ultima's bane Minstrel's Ballad
New Primal
The Entire PvP System
Hildibrand
Treasure Hunts
Free Company Housing
Aesthetician

3.1:
MSQ
1 New Beast Tribe
2 Dungeons
24 man Raid
1 Heavily Hinted At Extreme Trial - Singularity Reactor (likely an extreme of the new primal if we get one)
New Primal(?)
Airship Exploration (comparable to housing in scale, except we didn't have to give up a dungeon for that)
Lord of Verminion
Relics (which honestly should have been in 3.0...)
Ishgard Housing and Housing Tweaks
New Sidequest(?)


Correct me if I missed anything.

[Dyvid]

so a delayed expansion release because it wasn't ready on time because they wanted a high quality release and 1 major patch being delayed because they took a vacation says they can't keep up the pace, wow.

CT wasn't ready at launch and they delayed that specific piece of content. wow

Correct me if I missed anything.

I think they said they are going to update Housing, Golden Saucer, and PvP. I also think they might have mentioned the new side story.

[Iromi]

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Good and informative post. I honestly am questioning why I am still subbed...good thing I only subbed for a month this time...

The way this is all being handled really reminds me of 1.0/FFXI days..when they weren't totally honest and kept information when it was convenient and so forth. I've supported Square all my life but they are making it really, really, really difficult for me to want to continue doing so.