Live Letter from the Producer - Discussion Thread

[Sicno]

At this point RNG is slang for "you're not allowed to have what you want, but please keep subscribing."

[Evtrai]

At this point RNG is slang for "you're not allowed to have what you want, but please keep subscribing."

So you want 100% drop rate? I'm confused, I almost thought this was an RPG and an MMO.

[Sicno]

So you want 100% drop rate? I'm confused, I almost thought this was an RPG and an MMO.

I'd rather have a way in which if I work towards something for a reasonable ammount of time I'm guaranteed to eventually get it. I'm not saying I want things instantly, I'm saying relying 100% on luck is stupid.

[Windklinge]

I'd rather have a way in which if I work towards something for a reasonable ammount of time I'm guaranteed to eventually get it. I'm not saying I want things instantly, I'm saying relying 100% on luck is stupid.

wow a smart player who gets the point of why to much RNG sucks on mmos. glad to see there is still people like you

sadly the 100% luck based best gear thing is a common theme on 99% of all eastern mmos. which is why they keept failing on the west because we dont like LUCK = GEAR we prefer EFFORT/CHALLENGE = GEAR. this new feature has to potential to ruin ff14 if they use the typcial eastern mmo elements on it -.- which i sadly fear they will. whats the point of adding tokens to savage mode drops when you put better gear elsewere with even worse rng? may aswell not have added them then at all.

[AzraelX]

wow a smart player who gets the point of why to much RNG sucks on mmos. glad to see there is still people like you

sadly the 100% luck based best gear thing is a common theme on 99% of all eastern mmos. which is why they keept failing on the west because we dont like LUCK = GEAR we prefer EFFORT/CHALLENGE = GEAR. this new feature has to potential to ruin ff14 if they use the typcial eastern mmo elements on it -.- which i sadly fear they will. whats the point of adding tokens to savage mode drops when you put better gear elsewere with even worse rng? may aswell not have added them then at all.

But for the EA missions he did mention that we will get points to get items as well............so maybe those items will be of equal value. I didn't touch much on them .

[Windklinge]

But for the EA missions he did mention that we will get points to get items as well............so maybe those items will be of equal value. I didn't touch much on them .

yes he said that we will get points. he however didnt state that you could buy i210 with these points. my guess is that i210 will only drop form those super world bosses which have days of respawn time most the time and are killed instantly when they spawn even midnight workdays. theyll likely be very smiliar to s marks only that they will reward possible BIS items making the rush for them even more crazy than current s marks were when the seals were important.

so points will likely not help at all with that issue. while its true that you cannot remove rng elements from a game entirely one some games they are actually mandatory (diablo) but these are different games. and sadly eastern mmos have been proven to ALWAYS contain OVERKILL or UNHUMAN odds when it comes to RNG based systems aka like 1% droprate and stuff like that. materia meldung is such an example on ff14 which is plain unfun to do for example. most players dont want thier FREETIME efforts be destroyed by getting bad RNG rolls over and over again. because if this goes to far you wont even feel happy about it when finally getting it youll more likely think this : THANK GOD THIS IS FINALLY OVER -.- and that is not what should happen in a GAME.


if the gear is BIS over savage parts then this will become a HUGE issue. if its not better than savage then i dont care.
on a sidenote i really hope these drops are BOUND ON PICKUP like instances. otherwise we will see people make MILLIONS of gil out of them via the board and this will lead to everything in the game becoming more expansive as time goes on. it also would give a DIRECT boost to gil sellers and buyers which is NEVER a good thing to make in any mmo afaik.