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    Question to a Final Fantasy Dev

    This isn't about FFXIV, I know this is a bit off topic, I just want to know one thing that has bugged me since it came out for playstation one and advent children.

    The question is - Is OmniSlash Clouds Limit break Pure Energy that cause's Internal injury or physical damage.

    The reason I ask is because, they never get cut into bits and like Sephiroth at the end of Final Fantasy 7 he is normal then seems like he starts bleeding maybe from the inside and falls back.

    So when I see Advent Children Sephiroth gets hit from every angle but by energy type slashes.

    Thank's if you can answer that for me I would be happy.
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    I'm no dev, but both versions of Omnislash you're describing would be considered physical blows. In Advent Children, if you look closely, he's not using "energy blades", he's using the separated pieces of his Fusion Sword and attacking with them individually. The individual blades apparently just glow during the technique. As for the victims never getting "cut to bits"... well, the Final Fantasy series has never really been known for its realism when depicting injuries or hyper-violence.
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    If you are searching for a logical answer in a series that ppl jump in the sky like rockets, magic exists, monster and all the kind of stuff then Good Luck. FF was never about realism. That's why it's called Final Fantasy. They do things in order to be visually appealing and impressive and not to have logical explanations and normal physical laws. Also they are censoring any gory and bloody details in battle. We are talking here about a guy with a sword double his size and hitting metallic enemies with it. Do not look for rational explanation just enjoy what it is as it is without questions asked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    I'm no dev, but both versions of Omnislash you're describing would be considered physical blows. In Advent Children, if you look closely, he's not using "energy blades", he's using the separated pieces of his Fusion Sword and attacking with them individually. The individual blades apparently just glow during the technique. As for the victims never getting "cut to bits"... well, the Final Fantasy series has never really been known for its realism when depicting injuries or hyper-violence.
    Though why does the weapon pass through them without physically chopping them in half? So if its not energy then what is it, because that's not physical if it was physical it would sever limbs or leave gashes.

    I know its RPG though they show sephiroth cut in half when you hand him the black materia so this is why I question it.
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    The weapons are physical but maybe the bodies aren't!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riardon View Post
    If you are searching for a logical answer in a series that ppl jump in the sky like rockets, magic exists, monster and all the kind of stuff then Good Luck. FF was never about realism. That's why it's called Final Fantasy. They do things in order to be visually appealing and impressive and not to have logical explanations and normal physical laws. Also they are censoring any gory and bloody details in battle. We are talking here about a guy with a sword double his size and hitting metallic enemies with it. Do not look for rational explanation just enjoy what it is as it is without questions asked.
    I have my reasons to wanting to know, so if you are going to be that type of person who tries to shut down the topic I don't even want to talk to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    The weapons are physical but maybe the bodies aren't!
    Hmmm that might be a good reason though jenova's head was cut off by sephiroth and he jumped into the life stream with it.

    Even the president was slain by sephiroth with a sword impaled into him.


    Though clouds OmniSlash just goes through them, it shines glowing like it ignores body armor and physical swords and shields.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    Though why does the weapon pass through them without physically chopping them in half?
    Isn't it possible that while the slashes appear to cut clean through, they are in fact only hitting the surface of the skin, or creating cuts that do not entirely sever the target? Additionally, given that the person in question is Sephiroth, isn't it also possible that he has an innate healing factor that heals his wounds before they become visible, with instead of physical damage causing his defeat, it is instead the energy drain on his body from healing the damage that would otherwise be seen? Just my thoughts on the matter if looking at it from a more logical viewpoint rather than going the easy "it's a fictional game" route.....
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    Strangely enough, if you assume the OP is from a parallel universe, it all makes sense.
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    That or they are just spouting gibberish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riardon View Post
    If you are searching for a logical answer in a series that ppl jump in the sky like rockets, magic exists, monster and all the kind of stuff then Good Luck. FF was never about realism. That's why it's called Final Fantasy. They do things in order to be visually appealing and impressive and not to have logical explanations and normal physical laws. Also they are censoring any gory and bloody details in battle. We are talking here about a guy with a sword double his size and hitting metallic enemies with it. Do not look for rational explanation just enjoy what it is as it is without questions asked.
    Like it or not, this is the answer. It's why videogame logic memes are a thing. Suspended disbelief.

    There isn't an answer. They didn't come up with a theory of physics for the ffvii world to explain these things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    Though why does the weapon pass through them without physically chopping them in half? So if its not energy then what is it, because that's not physical if it was physical it would sever limbs or leave gashes.

    I know its RPG though they show sephiroth cut in half when you hand him the black materia so this is why I question it.
    They are physical blows. His body doesn't get cut into little pieces because, 1) it's not a slasher film, and 2) it would ruin his dramatic "death" and then turning back into Kadaj would make even less sense than it already does. It has nothing do with logic. It's one of those things you're meant to just go with because it looks cool.
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