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  1. #31
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    Avidria's Avatar
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    Avi Taro
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    I'd like to see this. I don't usually bother with leveling roulette except for the bonus as my healer, and end up going into specific dungeons with fc mates to level/help each other.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    as you should as well when you fill these spots with a premade.
    the only way i would even agree with queueing premade is to reduce the bonus starting at 50%, and in increments of 20% more reduction with a 3rd or 4th person. thus giving more incentive to do leveling roulette as originally designed

    edit: when i do my roulettes and decide to go as a dps, my only long queue time is for high level. coincidentally this is the only roulette people can queue premade
    High level also takes more effort to unlock than leveling. I've been 60 for weeks and just unlocked high lvl roulette 2 days ago. Haven't actually queued up for it yet.

    You can also queue premade for ex roulette. I don't think I've ever waited more than 5 min as any role for that except at very odd times of day.
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  2. #32
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    Rama Kagon
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SigurdDeMizar View Post
    It is BONUS, but not a given. People who doesn't have this patience with other people and lacking social skill can work harder to get the same experience. You can always have pre-made team to dungeon There is nothing in the game that stop you from playing with people you know, but you just can't level as fast.
    If making pre-made groups had a bonus, you can be sure that people would stop using DF and start going with their friends and FC mates more often, and -THAT- is a good thing. We are in an MMORPG as far as I know.
    I don't understand why a bonus should be such a hard thing to achieve "because you're in a premade": don't you want people to group up? Give bonuses for premades and PF groups will skyrocket, because on top of being convenient you might actually get better groups -yes, actual good groups- while as of now whether you make a premade or not there's LITERALLY no difference (talking about expert roulette of course), aside from the occasional bad group that can be a major turn off for some.

    Do we really want to level up alone faster, and slower in groups? Because, as of now, this game is very good at that, and with how things go it's most likely that player will just play alone. Nothing changes afterall.

    PS: This also applies for Fate Grinding because even those don't give you any bonuses for being a group, aside having a higher chance of gold medal. If that's enough for you, fair enough.
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 09-19-2015 at 02:32 AM.

  3. 09-19-2015 03:11 AM
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    Nah, not worth. :)

  4. #33
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    DPZ2's Avatar
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    Dal S'ta
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 97
    My first thought -- "Hey! That would really make it much easier to abuse the kick system in an instance." Two FC mates might go into the leveling instances and wreak havoc because they can talk with each other AND get additional XP to boot!

    No thanks.
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  5. #34
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    RocheKat's Avatar
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    Klarity Sincerity
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    Lamia
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    Conjurer Lv 46
    I would rather they just let us keep our unlocked abilities and nerf us more when synced down. Personally it would be more fun to have everything I have at 40 or 50 or 60 while level 15 and have the stats of someone in crappy leveling gear. That would get me into low level DR way more... that and they could up the rewards for doing it after the first time a day.

    I also wouldn't mind if they upped the rewards for the Daily low level because while sastasha is low level boring I don't have to explain much to anyone and even if the dps is really bad it will still go very quickly. Higher level stuff starts to go really slow with bad dps and gods help you if you Aurum Vale.
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  6. #35
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    RozaB's Avatar
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    Roza Blade
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 25
    Lol this community!

    I'm struggling and not having fun! "You need to make friends and try harder"

    I have friends and want to play with them. " why don't you just play by yourself?"
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  7. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    My first thought -- "Hey! That would really make it much easier to abuse the kick system in an instance." Two FC mates might go into the leveling instances and wreak havoc because they can talk with each other AND get additional XP to boot!

    No thanks.
    be afraid of everything and never do anything, that sounds like a great motto for life in general.
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  8. #37
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    Solarra's Avatar
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    Sylbritt Muscadet
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    Cerberus
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    Archer Lv 89
    Quote Originally Posted by SigurdDeMizar View Post
    the exp bonus is there for those who has courage to let themselves to go in a random party without knowing anyone prior. It is BONUS, but not a given. People who doesn't have this patience with other people and lacking social skill can work harder to get the same experience.
    Well, I'm fairly new to the game so go easy on me but I thought the bonus was for helping newer players by running those low level instances and helping them complete their story-line.
    Also, it's the possibility of running into players who lack patience and social skills that keeps me from using the Roulette while I'm on my own. I have friends who do pug and the stories they tell are not encouraging.

    I wouldn't mind a decreased bonus or a limit on the number of people we could queue with but I still think this would be a useful option to have.
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  9. #38
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    NekoGenesis's Avatar
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    Neko Genesis
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    Adamantoise
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    I don't think it needs any changes. I always thought the EXP/GIL/Tome reward for doing leveling duty roulette (and trial/guildhest roulette as well) was because you had to queue alone into a dungeon not of your choice with 3 other random people, with some (most in my experience) of those people possibly being new to said dungeon.

    Of course it would be more convenient for everyone who has played the game for a while and has friends/FC members to get a group of 4 and absolutely destroy leveling roulette for a quick and massive boost of exp, like what most of us do for Expert for Esoterics now. But that was not, in my opinion, the main purpose of implementing leveling roulette there in the first place.

    Aside from the Leveling/Main-Story/Guildhest/Trial/PvP roulettes and certain story-based or class-based duties, this game doesn't actually force you into solo queue-ing much, and you'll eventually spend more time with your friends/fc/static doing EX primals, PvP, dungeon-leveling, fate-grinding, Alex N/S, Expert and Hard Mode Roulettes and other older raids like Coil.

    I don't see a problem with the way leveling roulette has been designed and neither do I want it changed. If you have friends/fc, pull a party of 4 together and speed-run Aurum Vale or go grind fates or something.
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  10. #39
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    Pomelo Elmbrook
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    I'd love this to be changed, in fact any roulette should be able to queue as a group as long as the value of the group is the composition required for the instance/raid/whatever minus 1...

    So at least someone will be saved a queue xD
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  11. #40
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    BubblyBoar's Avatar
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    Xyno Edajos
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Isn't the point of the roulette to put you with people that need a group to run a dungeon? Like...that is literally the point of the leveling roulette, nothing else. The tomes/exp/gil/etc. is the reward for doing so. That said, premades counter that point because you aren't helping those that are waiting in the queue. This low level lvl 24 guy is sitting in queue trying to do toto-rak to continue his story. The leveling roulette is there so that he isn't waiting for hours and hours. But if people are going in with a premade, he'll keep getting bypassed by those same premades.

    And those suggesting you just remove the roulette rewards for a premade....why would they run the roulette then? Just to help random lowbies? Do they need a roulette for that....or even a premade? Wanna help random lowbies? Queue for lowbie dungeons directly. Wanna just help, why do you need a premade to help?

    And "getting a group for hard content" is a VERY different thing then "making a premade to get roulette reward without doing the thing it was intended for." Please don't paint this black and white and laugh, cause you just make yourself look stupid.
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