Small change to endgame to help.

[Taei]

I know there are a lot of angry posts about how there's a lack of endgame and lockouts etc. Here's just a quick suggestion that can help out a bit and it shouldn't require that much more effort to do.

Release or use one of the primals as an equivalent gear farm as the raids, somewhere between A1-3S. Still make A4S the highest gear upgrade, but just give us another primal as another option for gearing up that is free of lockouts, somewhat difficult and doesn't require a static to do.

[Greyfrost]

Are you talking about Ravana Extreme? Sounds a lot like Ravana Extreme to me, minus the gears, since RavEx only drops weapon, and it's the third best in-game, damage-wise.

Somewhat difficult with randoms, and doesn't require a static to clear.

[Taei]

Please read the 2nd paragraph.

[zcrash970]

If it's going to drop equal gear to that of savage, it should be as hard as savage or be released the patch after the current top raid is released.

[MentheusDreyar]

If it's going to drop equal gear to that of savage, it should be as hard as savage or be released the patch after the current top raid is released.

^ This

Not to mention primals are meant to be accessible to everyone but hardly anyone can seem to handle their current difficulty with any form of ease. Every "farm" i join is a bunch of headless chickens who have no clue, for bismarck and ravana.

If its any harder than current EX's (which it has to be, and approaching savage difficulty) you'll want to be running it with some kind of a static anyway to have any kind of chance of even doing it, which is kinda of against your idea of it.

All this will do is make it easier for raider's to get gear to complete the raids. It will accomplish pretty much nothing...

If you want raid equivalent gear, raid for it! Don't make us raider's efforts a waste because you're to lazy to attempt the current endgame.

[ElHeggunte]

How would this help exactly? If it had no lockouts, but had gear equivalent or close to raids, no one would do the raids. All you would be doing is trading complaints about the lockout for complaints about droprates or being bored because people geared up too fast using your idea. Making the gear mid-ranged is fine I guess, but we already have plenty of that and people already fuss up and down about it.

[ShaneDawn]

You don't need the best gear if you don't do raids... even going going in Esoterics is an overkill anywhere else except Savage Alex atm. What would be the point of this? I beat Bis Ex at around i149 and Rav Ex at i159, just for example.

A vast minority of the playerbase is doing Alex Savage, and only a very small fragment of those people are good enough to clear A4S atm. You would just be screwing over 99% of the raiders by giving "free equivalent loot" elsewhere.

I think this is overall just a bad idea. Want more gear progression? Go do Savage Alex like the rest of us.

[Yukiko]

You don't need the best gear if you don't do raids...

First of: he didnt say "free gear", but you are using nice polemic!
And ohh, wait: You are getting BiS from hardest raid uhm... yea, for what?
You dont need it if you already beaten the HARDEST raid, so i guess your argument fails there!

Edit:
What we have is a lack of mid game content and the learning curve (mostly gearlock) is way too high between content. From Ravana to AS1 its a BIG jump... there isnt anything inbetween!

[ElHeggunte]

What we have is a lack of mid game content and the learning curve (mostly gearlock) is way too high between content. From Ravana to AS1 its a BIG jump... there isnt anything inbetween!

We haven't had our mid-ranged content patch yet. If it's anything like the trend we had in ARR, 3.1 will be our first "mid-ranged" patch with the inclusion of the 24-man Void Ark. If it's balanced anything like how the CT Trio was, it'll be harder than dungeons, but easier than the highest raids.

In fact, if we're going to continue to get a Normal and Savage mode of each new 8-man raid, I would expect the following 24-man to be the same or maybe slightly more difficult than the 8-man Normal mode that preceded it. So I expect Void Ark will be just a step above Alexander Normal in terms of difficulty and drop i190-195 equipment.

Of course it'll still wind up being "too easy" since most players are already going to be way ahead of the gear curve, but I digress.

[ShaneDawn]

@Yukiko.

No one was clearing A3S with the initial i190 gear we had wheb Alex Savage was released. The weekly gear was a necessity to even clear A4S for now... And that's only with the very best teams in the game. So yes, I would argue that you *need* a set amount of the best gear in the game to clear all the floors. Not the from the laat turn necessarily, but that's just semantics.

I don't disagree that we need more midcore content. Asking it the rewards to be on-par with the hardest content, however, is absurd. We'll be getting Void Ark next patch, with the drops probably being i200. They could also add a new extreme/trial at some point with i205 weps (much like Shiva Ex in 2,4) but I doubt it's going to happen. Would love a Singularity Reactor EX tho!