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    Rotations / macro for Lv.60 one-star

    Looking for a resource that has rotations and macros for some of the new crafting items. Melded out my gear and would like to start making some goods for profit, but can't a good resource -- I'm basically using my old 4-star rotations from pre-HW. Specifically, I'd like a reliable rotation or macro for some of the CUL one-star master foods. Thank you for your time!
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    I don't have macro for 1 star yet. Apparently, progress is an issue. At 730-ish craftsmanship, we need about 5 to 6 steps to complete the item even if we use Rapid Syn. But Rapid Syn is a bad idea for macro anyway. I think at higher craft like 800, we can probably use MaMa+FS, then Ingen2+CS II for completion. Yes, FS is hard to predict outcome, and it'll take up nearly 1 macro button's 15 lines. So we'll end up with a 3 part macro. But FS can reach more progress than MusMem and will consume no durab. For quality, i'm positive it'll be MM2 + WN2. The rest is probably fitting here and there with Hasties and a finisher Byregot. Nobody likes a Hasty macro, and that's probably why we haven't released any of that...

    However, I do have some macro for items below 1 star which could be useful to the public. They all use zero hasty, and are very reliable:

    ARR 4 Star / HW lvl 53 items for lvl 60 crafters (391 CP)

    /ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand" <wait.2>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Advanced Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Advanced Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand" <wait.3>
    /ac "Advanced Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.3>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.4>
    /ac "Standard Synthesis" <wait.4>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II"


    Marron Glaze / Deep-fried Okeanis / lvl 60 items - Part 1

    /ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
    /ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.3>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Precise Touch"
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Precise Touch"
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Precise Touch"
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Precise Touch"
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Precise Touch"
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Master's Mend II" <wait.2>


    Marron Glaze / Deep-fried Okeanis / lvl 60 items - Part 2 (402 CP version)

    /ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Precise Touch"
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Precise Touch"
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.4>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.4>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.4>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.4>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.4>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II"


    Marron Glaze / Deep-fried Okeanis - Part 2 (420 CP version)

    /ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Precise Touch"
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.3>
    /ac "Precise Touch"
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.4>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.4>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.4>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.4>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.4>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II"


    Marron Glaze / Deep-fried Okeanis - Part 2 (434 CP version)

    /ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Precise Touch"
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.4>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.3>
    /ac "Precise Touch"
    /ac "Standard Touch" <wait.4>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.4>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.4>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.4>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.4>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II"
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    Last edited by Caimie_Tsukino; 09-18-2015 at 09:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    I don't have macro for 1 star yet. Apparently, progress is an issue. At 730-ish craftsmanship, we need about 5 to 6 steps to complete the item even if we use Rapid Syn. But Rapid Syn is a bad idea for macro anyway. I think at higher craft like 800, we can probably use MaMa+FS, then Ingen2+CS II for completion.
    Here you go!

    Craftsmanship: 748 (bare minimum required appears to be 725)
    Control: 695 (no bare minimum, but the more the merrier -- 695 was my base)
    CP: 404 (440 bare minimum required -- achieved with food)
    Food: HQ Bouillabaisse or HQ Seafood Stew
    Materials Progress (To 100% HQ): 3098 with no Precise Touches or HQ Seafood Stew

    Lv.60, 1-star, 70 durability, #1
    /ac “Muscle Memory” <wait.3>
    /ac “Comfort Zone” <wait.2>
    /ac “Inner Quiet” <wait.2>
    /ac “Steady Hand II” <wait.2>
    /ac “Waste Not” <wait.2>
    /ac “Precise Touch”
    /ac “Basic Touch” <wait.3>
    /ac “Precise Touch”
    /ac “Basic Touch” <wait.3>
    /ac “Precise Touch”
    /ac “Basic Touch” <wait.3>
    /ac “Precise Touch”
    /ac “Basic Touch” <wait.3>
    /ac “Manipulation” <wait.2>
    /echo Now hit Macro #2!

    Lv.60, 1-star, 70 durability, #2
    /ac “Steady Hand II” <wait.2>
    /ac “Precise Touch”
    /ac “Basic Touch” <wait.3>
    /ac “Precise Touch”
    /ac “Basic Touch” <wait.3>
    /ac “Steady Hand” <wait.2>
    /ac “Innovation” <wait.2>
    /ac “Great Strides” <wait.2>
    /echo CHECK CONDITION: If Good or Excellent, hit Macro 4. If not, then hit Macro 3!

    Lv.60, 1-star, 70 durability, #3
    /ac “Ingenuity II” <wait.2>
    ac “Byregot's Blessing” <wait.3>
    /ac “Careful Synthesis II” <wait.3>
    /ac “Careful Synthesis II” <wait.3>
    /ac “Careful Synthesis II” <wait.3>
    /ac “Careful Synthesis II” <wait.3>
    /echo Done!

    Lv.60, 1-star, 70 durability, #4
    /ac “Byregot's Blessing” <wait.3>
    /ac “Ingenuity II” <wait.2>
    /ac “Careful Synthesis II” <wait.3>
    /ac “Careful Synthesis II” <wait.3>
    /ac “Careful Synthesis II” <wait.3>
    /ac “Careful Synthesis II” <wait.3>
    /echo Done!
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    You know what's so overpowered in this game, that they just HAD to leave out?
    -Buffing during cutscenes.
    -Pets receiving the Protect buff.
    -A blacklist with more than a 200 player capacity.
    -Filtering the flying text for your own numbers.
    -A better way to organize and sort through your macros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvianEverdeen View Post
    Here you go!
    Evian, good attempt! But that rotation has only 6 touches in there... For 1 star, we usually need about 9 touches to get it HQ. Your rotation will require the use of all HQ mats, and still, you may not get it to 100% HQ rate... :/

    Katlyna's 1 star rotation above is much more viable as it has a lot more touches. It is exactly like I expected - consisting of MaMa+FS to save 10 durab, used WN2 and MM2, which are the 2 best durab-conservation skills we can afford in a macro at the moment with our CP pool, and then finish off with Ingen2+CS II spam. Still, I'm not a big fan of Hasty in macros... I will definitely manual craft my 1 star at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    consisting of MaMa+FS to save 10 durab, used WN2 and MM2, which are the 2 best durab-conservation skills we can afford in a macro at the moment with our CP pool, and then finish off with Ingen2+CS II spam. Still, I'm not a big fan of Hasty in macros... I will definitely manual craft my 1 star at the moment.
    Thanks Caimie. And you're right you're better of manually doing one star... but I suspect the macro I posted would be ok for cheep food. Actually I think I'm going to post a slight variation of what I posted as my recommended 1 star approach. The only change being you would want to cast inner quiet after the first CZ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    Evian, good attempt! But that rotation has only 6 touches in there... For 1 star, we usually need about 9 touches to get it HQ. Your rotation will require the use of all HQ mats, and still, you may not get it to 100% HQ rate... :/
    I gave the instructions on how to get it to 100% HQ, yes, you will need to use some HQ mats OR get lucky with Precise Touches. Macros are for mindlessly mass-producing products anyway. If you're that concerned with taking 1-star items from purely NQ materials to a 100% HQ synthesis, you should definitely be crafting manually and using a reliable rotation. I don't like including Hasty Touches or Flawless Syntheses in macros, but I will craft manually with them, no questions asked.
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    Last edited by EvianEverdeen; 09-18-2015 at 11:49 PM.
    You know what's so overpowered in this game, that they just HAD to leave out?
    -Buffing during cutscenes.
    -Pets receiving the Protect buff.
    -A blacklist with more than a 200 player capacity.
    -Filtering the flying text for your own numbers.
    -A better way to organize and sort through your macros.

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    As for 35 durab rotations with zero Hasties, I made a comparison of Mithrie's, yours and my rotations here:

    With both 444 CP, although you have an extra IQ stack, I think I am able to squeeze out slightly more quality with my rotation, since I have an extra Great Strides & extra Innovation in there.

    Anyway, personally, I have been using my rotations at 412 CP because i150 gear with melding provides at least 395 CP, and all I needed was a NQ Stone Soup (37 gil from the Gold Saucer) to add 17 CP to reach 412, which I pop at will and require no crafting to make.

    With i170 accessories, my CP is much higher now and can afford stronger version of these rotations. But before I had any i170, all my 412 CP rotations were still usable.

    As for the lvl 58 rotation, I have tested and compared with many, many other rotations. I am very confident and dare say that it's MAXED for 412 CP (without the use of Hasty). If anyone can get more quality squeezed out than that in 412 CP, I will gladly pledge myself to be her/his apprentice! LOL! :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    As for 35 durab rotations with zero Hasties, I made a comparison of Mithrie's, yours and my rotations here:
    With both 444 CP, although you have an extra IQ stack, I think I am able to squeeze out slightly more quality with my rotation, since I have an extra Great Strides & extra Innovation in there.
    I'll test your macro right now and see. The one I created is doing pretty well actually, but if yours is better, I'll make the switch. Mithrie's macro is useless right now, some of his stuff sorely needs updated to reflect better crafting stats. I usually love his stuff, but it's part of the reason I went out looking for another macro and ended up creating my own.

    EDIT: Your 35 durability macro (444 CP version) does come out to having more quality in the end product (just by a couple hundred progress, but still more). Now I have to decide if I want to use your macro and lose the extra Basic Touch and losing a possible Precise Touch proc or going with the more reliable (slightly) higher quality outcome. Good work!
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    Last edited by EvianEverdeen; 09-19-2015 at 12:02 AM.
    You know what's so overpowered in this game, that they just HAD to leave out?
    -Buffing during cutscenes.
    -Pets receiving the Protect buff.
    -A blacklist with more than a 200 player capacity.
    -Filtering the flying text for your own numbers.
    -A better way to organize and sort through your macros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvianEverdeen View Post
    I'll test your macro right now and see. The one I created is doing pretty well actually, but if yours is better, I'll make the switch. Mithrie's macro is useless right now, some of his stuff sorely needs updated to reflect better crafting stats. I usually love his stuff, but it's part of the reason I went out looking for another macro and ended up creating my own.

    EDIT: Your 35 durability macro (444 CP version) does come out to having more quality in the end product (just by a couple hundred progress, but still more). Now I have to decide if I want to use your macro and lose the extra Basic Touch and losing a possible Precise Touch proc or going with the more reliable (slightly) higher quality outcome. Good work!
    Thanks! ^^

    Mithrie is a crafter who has accomplished a lot within a reasonably short period of time. His stuff works fine too, and he has helped many people. He has my respect for that. But his rotations have much room for improvement. I think people like Katlyna, Jade, Rath etc put in a lot more effort in refining their rotations, so their rotations are usually more effective and CP-efficient.
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