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    What would you like to replace Silent Dusk with?

    After tampering with the changes made with Selene going into hw I had been spit balling an idea of how I would prefer Selene support set to work. Having manually controlled Selene's ss buffs throughout 2.X I still miss alternating between fairy buffs (light and glow). I find her silence for the most part to be completely useless in 99% of content and would like to have it replaced with a more meaningful support ability similar to Fey Wind. Since Fey Wind is a minor but reliable 3% ss and aa buff I would like to see another skill that affects damage output for everyone for around the same percent (let's call it Fey Aura). Similar to Light/Glow in 2.X the speed buff and damage buff would alternate every 30s.

    Thoughts? Do you think the silence should stay in the first place or would you rather something else as well?


    @Edit: Lol I actually meant Silent Dusk. Don't know what I was thinking writing Fey Dusk.
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    Last edited by Sailysium; 09-18-2015 at 08:55 AM.

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    I don't believe there is a Fey Dusk? Fey Caress (AoE esuna) is extremely useful and would not like it to be changed.

    Silent Dawn (selene's silence) I find to be pretty useless in most content. I think changing it (and therefore the name too lol) to some type of minor magical reduction would be better instead. Like, reduces INT on a target by 5% for 4 seconds, or reduces magic potency by 3%, just so it'd be helpful on magical AoEs which have a lot of in Alexander.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waltz_Beat View Post
    I don't believe there is a Fey Dusk?

    Silent Dawn (selene's silence) I find to be pretty useless in most content.
    Edited the OP. Lol i was referring to this. Don't know why I still call this move Fey Dusk. In game it says silent dusk (you might be thinking of whispering dawn).

    Also the Fey Covenant from Eos already gives a 20% magic defense buff to everyone so the int down would be a little redundant
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    I would rather have a 2 second silence added to energy drain and maybe give a 30 second duration CRIT buff of like 3% instead, like a mini battle litany. AST can't boost crit so it would be special amongst healers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    I would rather have a 2 second silence added to energy drain
    Hmm that would also inadvertently buff SMN. I mean if anything the silence from selene should at least be made into an AoE for cc in PvE (reduced in PvP) like Monk's Arm of the Destroyer but on a cooldown
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    The stun/silence on pets are just too slow altogether.
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    The skill is fine. It might be niche, but it works very well when so called for as a backup silence. I used to use it in BCoB and especially SCoB in T9 when people fucked up the blue golem's silencing and thus blowing Spirits Within/Blunt Arrow as a muscle memory kind of thing. So many weekly farm runs saved in 2.2 with vigilant Silent Dusk use.

    Would I mind it if they added new fairy skills or possibly enhanced Silent Dusk in some way? Not really. But at the same time, I wouldn't like returning to Fey Glow/Fey Light-esque shuffling anymore. Good times for sure, but at present you don't need to think of stuff like "whose buff shall I use on the pull?" (yes I know, Light is the correct answer), you can run dual-Selene efficiently if need be (a niche thing for now), and also - you lose a little less fairy HPS now from having breaks via using a fairy skill less often. Fairy-swapping also benefits from this more than it did in previous patches, as now you only use up one fairy skill slot pre-swapping to Eos, and you also make full use of the buff at once.
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    All good points though I wouldn't be concerned as much with a delayed embrace (especially since it hasn't scaled well with the hp bloat in 3.0 anyway) from the fairy for rotating another pet skill over the course of a fight considering that having Selene out implies you are confident the current phases of a fight are manageable to heal/dps without much assistance from the fairy especially since one would be more so concerned on how much support to push the fight you are providing over countering incoming raid-wide damage. And speaking of dual-Selene I wouldn't mind seeing another sch beside me and discussing who wants to start on which buff prepull for a sec if going with my original idea. Again just my personal preference of managing Selene with offensive support to match how much defensive/healing support Eos provides.
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    Last edited by Sailysium; 09-18-2015 at 11:20 PM.

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    Selene should have a skill that extends the effects of Eye for an Eye and Sacred Soil by 10 seconds, similar to Garuda-Egi's Contagion.
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    Well, every class/Job has a skill that interrupts an enemy skill. Be it by stun, silence or by moving the enemy so it cancels it's attack. (BLM is the one lacking such a skill).

    If SCH would replace this skill, it should be for a stunning or for a moving skill so they don't loose this trait.
    I vote for - in case of change - change it to a 1sec stun or moving the enemy towards the fairy. ('fey attraction'...) It should cause no damage to the enemy either, cause it would change the 'heal-only' purpose of the fairy.
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    Last edited by Roxas_Andrade; 09-19-2015 at 08:26 PM.

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