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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForbiddenMonk View Post
    shield lob -> provoke....

    I don't understand why tanks are starting off there rotation with provoke....all you have to do is get within distance and you have an automatic provoke. Provoke should be save for lost of aggro or pulling distant adds
    Malevicton was referring to ways you could fix things in the situation provided by the other poster. If you lose hate, you use Provoke > Shield Lob, not the other way around. They were criticizing the tank for losing aggro due to dodging an aoe. Your post seems to ignore the context of the quote's response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackFross View Post
    Malevicton was referring to ways you could fix things in the situation provided by the other poster. If you lose hate, you use Provoke > Shield Lob, not the other way around. They were criticizing the tank for losing aggro due to dodging an aoe. Your post seems to ignore the context of the quote's response.
    He lost aggro on opener. Provoke and a shield lob is crap way to re-establish aggro especially if lost in opener. Try that tactic in T10, lose aggro on the pull or lose aggro on wild charge, good luck provoking and shield lobbing your aggro back. Or T11 when tanking sphere and lossing aggro to caster, provoking and shield lobing aggro back from that is reckless. provoke and shield lob is pretty useless if you can't immediately land another enmity skill after.


    This is coming from a SCOB(savage) and FCOB progression cleared Pld.
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    Last edited by ForbiddenMonk; 09-29-2015 at 05:40 AM.

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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForbiddenMonk View Post
    This is coming from a SCOB(savage) and FCOB progression cleared Pld.
    All I was referencing was the fact you swapped the skill order in your response. I'll assume it was a typo. I didn't say Provoke>Lob is the best way to get hate back, but if you're doing casual content such as Ultros and your dps aren't bags of dicks, it's all you should need in basically every situation unless you're massively undergeared.

    The bolded meaning they see you provoke and they lay off slightly, switch targets, or use their enmity drop skill. It's casual content, it's not raid we're talking about. If you're losing hate in a raid setting, you're doing something wrong and should fix your playstyle or yell at your WHM for spamming C3 when it's not needed. You should never have to resort to Provoke to get hate back except for a tank swap in a raid setting.
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