i got a question for you dps..

[Malevicton]

way to assume there.. i'm almost always in full tanking gear and stance.. nice example is this brd who decided to keep unloading into ultros at the start of the fight and since he dropped an aoe on me early i didn't have enuf time to properly establish threat.. i call him out on this and his response boiled down to "lol u lost aggro to a bard?" when i didn't even get a chance to use a full enmity combo yet

1) you still had enough time to establish threat.

2) you could have dodged to the side and kept attacking.

3) provoke -> shield lob

[Gorlioliolio]

Where are you guys finding all these dps that are so good they just rip agro right off you? My issue is that dps are so bad 90% of the time I can tank without grit and 1 agro combo at start of fight is more than enough to hold hate the rest of it. Sometimes I get a dps who comes close by the time the boss is almost dead but it's rare.

Edit: this is at 60, if your a new toon without your full agro combo or tanking stance it can be a pain against high level synced dps

[ForbiddenMonk]

1) you still had enough time to establish threat.

2) you could have dodged to the side and kept attacking.

3) provoke -> shield lob

shield lob -> provoke....

I don't understand why tanks are starting off there rotation with provoke....all you have to do is get within distance and you have an automatic provoke. Provoke should be save for lost of aggro or pulling distant adds

[JackFross]

shield lob -> provoke....

I don't understand why tanks are starting off there rotation with provoke....all you have to do is get within distance and you have an automatic provoke. Provoke should be save for lost of aggro or pulling distant adds

Malevicton was referring to ways you could fix things in the situation provided by the other poster. If you lose hate, you use Provoke > Shield Lob, not the other way around. They were criticizing the tank for losing aggro due to dodging an aoe. Your post seems to ignore the context of the quote's response.

[ForbiddenMonk]

Malevicton was referring to ways you could fix things in the situation provided by the other poster. If you lose hate, you use Provoke > Shield Lob, not the other way around. They were criticizing the tank for losing aggro due to dodging an aoe. Your post seems to ignore the context of the quote's response.

He lost aggro on opener. Provoke and a shield lob is crap way to re-establish aggro especially if lost in opener. Try that tactic in T10, lose aggro on the pull or lose aggro on wild charge, good luck provoking and shield lobbing your aggro back. Or T11 when tanking sphere and lossing aggro to caster, provoking and shield lobing aggro back from that is reckless. provoke and shield lob is pretty useless if you can't immediately land another enmity skill after.


This is coming from a SCOB(savage) and FCOB progression cleared Pld.

[JackFross]

This is coming from a SCOB(savage) and FCOB progression cleared Pld.

All I was referencing was the fact you swapped the skill order in your response. I'll assume it was a typo. I didn't say Provoke>Lob is the best way to get hate back, but if you're doing casual content such as Ultros and your dps aren't bags of dicks, it's all you should need in basically every situation unless you're massively undergeared.

The bolded meaning they see you provoke and they lay off slightly, switch targets, or use their enmity drop skill. It's casual content, it's not raid we're talking about. If you're losing hate in a raid setting, you're doing something wrong and should fix your playstyle or yell at your WHM for spamming C3 when it's not needed. You should never have to resort to Provoke to get hate back except for a tank swap in a raid setting.