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  1. #11
    Player Shirobi's Avatar
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    Rivenblack Balemourn
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    #1 Its a DPS loss usually, if not used at the start of a fight and even then there shouldnt be a reason for having to us it.

    #2 If you are tanking properly this should never be an issue past the very early levels of the game. Tanks need next to no lead in time, and, barring special fight mechanics, should never be coming close to losing threat to the DPS.

    TL;DR Stop trying to tank in DPS gear and using your DPS stance and this should never be a problem for you.
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  2. #12
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    Divinehero Caitsith
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    way to assume there.. i'm almost always in full tanking gear and stance.. nice example is this brd who decided to keep unloading into ultros at the start of the fight and since he dropped an aoe on me early i didn't have enuf time to properly establish threat.. i call him out on this and his response boiled down to "lol u lost aggro to a bard?" when i didn't even get a chance to use a full enmity combo yet
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  3. #13
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    ruskie's Avatar
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    Asny Rak'nys
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    I'll use quelling strikes if I know I'll pull off the tank. But rarely have tanks that have problems getting enough aggro up front to not be able to hold it even if fully prebuffed barraged empy lands on the boss.
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  4. #14
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Sida Bajihri
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Calling it "de-taunt".. .. There is not skill to "taunt" in this game. It's reference to totally another game and while it's arguable that particular game has set lot of base for mmos it'll still not make much sense as a term in this game.
    "Use your de-taunt pleaze"
    "My what now?"
    "Learn your class, noob"
    "?!"
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    Last edited by Sida; 09-17-2015 at 09:13 PM.

  5. #15
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    ShinSenpai's Avatar
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    Character
    Shin Senpai
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 60
    TRIAL BY WILDFIRE
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  6. #16
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    Greyfrost's Avatar
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    Ichi Greyfrost
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    Tonberry
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ShinSenpai View Post
    TRIAL BY WILDFIRE
    TRIAL BY FIRE IV
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  7. #17
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    Maero's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    I'shtola Maqa
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Comes down to player being jerks or clueless OP. So many times i have seen dps attack enemies before tanks actually got to the enemy (Bards are real bad for this) and no Quelling Strikes.
    However threat should not be all to hard to get back.
    As for the comment about wearing dps gear, have you seen the current tank gear? It is utter junk, lol
    When i do tank i have dps accesories and have not really had any problems holding threat.
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  8. #18
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    Senliten's Avatar
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    Senliten Solstice
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    way to assume there.. i'm almost always in full tanking gear and stance.. nice example is this brd who decided to keep unloading into ultros at the start of the fight and since he dropped an aoe on me early i didn't have enuf time to properly establish threat.. i call him out on this and his response boiled down to "lol u lost aggro to a bard?" when i didn't even get a chance to use a full enmity combo yet
    Honestly for fights like this, dps can just chill the hell out for a few seconds. Given how gear now and days is complete overkill for this content. I mean is that 2 extra seconds of waiting really gonna make a difference? No, not really, seeing the tank on Ultros needs to fricking position it still. Bard musta been one of those 'new to mmo's so i just gotta go fast and keep the shiny red orb by the npc's name in my UI' types.
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  9. #19
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    Launched's Avatar
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    Rys Sol
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I main tank, and enmity is 100% the tank's problem. The only exceptions are when the tank is incredibly undergeared or when the DPS starts attacking something when you're pulling multiple groups. Do your job instead of complaining, tanks can generate huge amounts of enmity quickly.
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  10. #20
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    Malevicton's Avatar
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Divinehero View Post
    way to assume there.. i'm almost always in full tanking gear and stance.. nice example is this brd who decided to keep unloading into ultros at the start of the fight and since he dropped an aoe on me early i didn't have enuf time to properly establish threat.. i call him out on this and his response boiled down to "lol u lost aggro to a bard?" when i didn't even get a chance to use a full enmity combo yet
    1) you still had enough time to establish threat.

    2) you could have dodged to the side and kept attacking.

    3) provoke -> shield lob
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    When in doubt, assume sarcasm

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