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    All i ask for ninja is 1 thing Square Enix pls!

    Pls! Pls! let us weave attacks between mudras! We get 5sec to cast the next mudra, let us put that timer to use! it would also help us peeps with mudra lag. pls consider this.
    Thank You ^_^
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    this is a bad idea because mudra cooldown currently does not start until you have used your ninjutsu.

    lets say you use ten, spinning slash, chi, gust slash, jin, aeolian edge, ninjutsu. this leaves you delaying the use of your ninjutsu and effectively prolonging your cooldown, and by extension, decreasing your dps by a good bit.

    if youre really having that many problems with mudra, you should just use Fuma Shuriken instead of raiton
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    I'm not trying to weave a move between each and every mudra but I would like to be able to weave buffs and stuff non the less, nothing wrong with having the option, people that don't wanna weave can just not weave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisersoke View Post
    lets say you use ten, spinning slash, chi, gust slash, jin, aeolian edge, ninjutsu. this leaves you delaying the use of your ninjutsu and effectively prolonging your cooldown, and by extension, decreasing your dps by a good bit.
    I agree with your points throughout this thread, but there is one point everyone (including myself, previously) misses where weaving being allowed could actually be beneficial. As you correctly note, weaving GCDs between each is definitely a loss in DPS, but the following input chain:

    Ten, Chi, Jin, Suiton (game doesn't register Suiton input), Gust, Bunny

    could be improved by allowing weaving, where it would become:

    Ten, Chi, Jin, Suiton (game doesn't register Suiton input), Gust, Suiton (game registers properly)

    I'm too lazy to math out whether Ten+Chi, GCD, Jin+Suiton would be beneficial, or even Ten+Chi, GCD, Raiton (instinct says no, but math would be nice). But the above case is an easily demonstrable DPS increase.
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    I agree, but its just semantics if a proposed fix creates as much friction as it resolves.
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    that said, yoshi p announced in the recent live letters, that mudra will be tweaked to hopefully allow a smoother experience with less lag in the upcoming patch 3.1, slated to release early november
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    ^ this. It would be a pretty big DPS loss to delay your mudra cooldown by that much.
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    Not really, mudras CD is not related to weaponskills or abilities... they should be kept separated but without loss of mudra becouse we use other skill between.... kinda I use a skill and in the same time I can press mudras they dont share GCD so there should be no problems... currently is that if you start waving mudras you are stuck till you end casting and mudra lag is punishing like hell.... so it would be better if we can use normal attacks all the time without messing the mudras timers and get bunny in the end.
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    I think it would be better, if you can redo the inputs if you mess up instead of getting that fail rabbit.
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    It wouldn't be a DPS loss, geez, what the hell :/

    If you can Raiton like the game is working right now without clipping then you can Raiton if the game were to work like the OP is suggesting the same way...
    It would accomodate better for things like Suiton, Doton or Huton (if lost).
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