@ mae

New players are doing farm groups a disservice by joing, if you read the thread in full, you'ed see why.

If not I'll sum it up

It is rude for first time go'ers to join a party meant to farm. It isn't about "clearing it 5% faster" it is about beating it and getting the loot doing multiple runs for players to get their items. On all servers the PF system is at the mercy of players who join. And most of my experiemce people lie their way into groups, this is on all servers.

All players want, is more options to build better groups.